If you're still using Chrome it's a you problem.
Firefox + ublock origin + SponsorBlock for youtube is great. Works on mobile too!
If you're still using Chrome it's a you problem.
Firefox + ublock origin + SponsorBlock for youtube is great. Works on mobile too!
I've been using a chromebook for the last 4 years and it's been great for my needs (youtube, streaming, porn, etc), but I am shopping for a windows machine now because fuck google.
It works on Android, but I don't believe it works on iOS.
Thanks choom, you reminded me to reinstall Sponsorblock.
The other day I got to pondering whether people who work for ad serving companies have ad blockers on their work computers.
I used to work for an ad heavy mobile game and ad serving company couple of years ago, and I had ad blocking at dns level in my house. It blocks not only ads, but also most tracking and telemetry. My bosses wanted to know why my devices were not displaying ads or dialing back to home, they were pretty fucking puzzled. They were terrified others like me were around. Basically their entire business model depends of people not knowing how to block ads and telemetry
I didn't other than for testing, in fact I had to research and figure out ways to bypass ad blockers, to prevent social icons from being blocked etc. I even wrote that company a brand new admin website to replace their old one, they liked it so much that they laid me off a few months later even though they were already underpaying me because they wanted someone cheaper to maintain it. I found a 30% higher paying job a few months later and been there since. lol
You won't get me off adblock, as of recently i've come to find we get significantly more ads compared to friends and family.
My dad plays wordfeud, so i install and play a set with him...about 5 seconds in i get frustrated at the 4th ad and my dad goes: "which ads".
My friends keep telling me i'm taking the youtube ads far too serious as they are only 10 seconds and show it to me too.
My youtube ads are 1 minute unskippable blocks before and after 1m 51s videos. I'll get a 1min ad block halfway into a 5 minute video even though youtube themselves claim they don't do that.
How the fuck am i so fucked when it comes to ads, my dads phone is almost completely ad free. Heck the google top suggestions that are basically paid for ads don't even show up on his phone.
He can play those free apps (advertisement feeding software) without getting any ads and he's adamant his phone isn't modified.
If you use android, just use adguard private dns. It will get rid of third party apps ads. For youtube you need revanced or newpipe
Eh, I haven't seen an ad on YouTube for years, I just use uBlock Origin on Firefox and they're all gone. You can also do that on mobile as well.
That said, I use Grayjay on mobile because it eliminates ads and also lets me sub to videos from other platforms. I have a few subs from Odyssee, one from Rumble, and a half dozen or so from Nebula. None of them display ads, and I only occasionally have some weird issue where a video doesn't load (usually just close and re-open the video and it works).
The DNS option is nice if you use an app that you don't have any control over, but for videos and regular web browsing, you can just use an ad-blocker.
It seems that many people here are not aware of how much Mozilla depends on Google, so switching to them is a small consolation. Maybe it's time to support the development of new engines like Servo and Ladybird more. Servo even recently released an Android version (currently not very usable, but I downloaded it just to show support).
Sure, but it is still the most usable alternative we have for now. I would avoid stock FF and use either Librewolf or hardened FF because the default browser spies too.
Really have hopes for Servo/Ladybird!
Opera browser? The one that everyone was making a stink about a few years ago? The one owned directly by a Chinese based company, and was supposedly sending telemetry to China?
Plus the whole exploiting poor people thing: https://www.engadget.com/2020-01-19-opera-accused-of-predatory-loan-apps.html?guccounter=1
I stopped using Opera the second it wasn't Norwegian. I use Librewolf on desktop, Waterfox on mobile and Vivaldi as the "clean" browser when something k. Waterfox/Librewolf fucks up an important webpage I have to use
The link you shared is the company profile only and doesn't mention any controversy about telemetry being shared with China.
I've been googling for a bit, and there are articles concerned this might happen from 2016 when the takeover was announced, and plenty of discussions on reddit, hacker news, y-combinator, quora and even on the official Opera forum (not deleted or redacted, mind you), but there wasn't any clear evidence that telemetry is being shared.
While the concern remains valid, I'm also asking myself whether it's that much worse than Chrome, Brave or Firefox sending telemetry to the US? I'm neither American nor Chinese, and would consider both governments hostile. Which one of them has access to my data is merely a choice between plague and cholera.
So in the end it's on informed users to block transmission of telemetry themselves, regardless of their browser of choice.
The link you shared is the company profile only and doesn’t mention any controversy about telemetry being shared with China.
I want to upvote this.
and would consider both governments hostile.
I want to downvote this.
So I guess I will do neither since I can't do both.
I would rather give my data to Firefox than a company who's entire business model is selling user data. That being said, you could use librewolf which removes telemetry. I use both Firefox and librewolf
Mozilla seems to be transitioning to becoming an advertising company so I wouldn't want them to have my data either.
Some people would rather give their data to opera then firefox 🤦♂️
I'm using Fennec which also removes telemetry, but many standard users are not comfortable installing apps that aren't on Google play.
The amount of people who only feel comfortable downloading on Google Play and also care about privacy I feel like is very small but I don't know.
People are still using it thanks to them forcing (ig sponsors from yt videos) and appealing to young generations with the opera gx browser and Twitter account mostly.
With the regular browser I assume they got it by accident while downloading adware(this might have happened to gx).
A better title: Opera explains shit on how it plans to keep uBlock Origin support. Will talk to developers so see if anyone has a good ideas.
They mention that the shared codebase means they can add functions back in, so there's that. To me that reads like a hard fork that they'd have to maintain independently.
I guess the current situation could be better if Opera and Brave coordinated among themselves a shared codebase for a patch that would allow both of them to keep v2 working. The thing is that Brave most likely doesn't actually care, they've a built in adblocker so if v2 goes away then their marketshare will increase. Opera can't do it alone because, well it is the Opera Chinese owned company after all.
I was really hopping that Microsoft would take on this, think about it, from a strategic PoV if Edge kept v2 and advertised it they could just snatch a big chunk of users from Google.
This is supposition but...
I imagine that disabling V2 is as simple as setting a flag during compile, at present. Obviously as the rest of the code base progresses it will become less simple to enable V2 support.
From a marketing perspective, the smart play is to say that you'll continue supporting uBlock Origin and keep saying that for at least the next month or so, in order to gather up some refugees from chrome. Thereafter tell every one that your built in blocker is better than uBlock Origin anyway, and then drop support for V2.
Opera is not a trustworthy browser and there has been no point in it existing since they stopped using presto.
Exactly. I used Opera until they dropped Presto and went back to Firefox.
A reminder that Opera is owned by a Chinese public company. I wouldn't trust the browser for privacy reasons.
Not even just that, they also have a history with making loan apps with predatory rates. I wouldnt trust them even if I was a member of CCP.
Just use Firefox and its variants for more privacy. Done. Chromium is a dead road. Even with ungoogled chromium , brave , etc you have to trust the maintainers and their compiled version.
serious question: how does opera (the company) make money?
originally? a paid product. now? crypto!
Partner integrations from what I know - search engines, bookmarks and so on.
Partner integration? You mean a partner of them pays them to be allowed to look at your browsing habits?
Did opera leave Norway? Is this stuff worse after that, if they left? What country did they go to?
Treat it however you want - from what I know even Mozilla has the same arrangement with Google and Firefox.
Wait, so you are saying that being open source and having a default search engine is the same as being both proprietary and being owned by a Chinese owner?
Zhou Yahui (Chinese: 周亚辉; born February 1977) is a Chinese billionaire and entrepreneur. In 2008, he founded Kunlun Tech Co Ltd (formerly Beijing Kunlun Tech Co Ltd) one of the largest web game developers in China, where he was the chairman and CEO until 2020. Yahui Zhou currently serves as chairman and co-CEO of Opera. His estimated net worth is US$2.2 billion.
I truly hope this leads to the collapse of Chrome's sheer market dominance. Fuck Google.
If every single person that uses adblock decided to move to Firefox because of MV3, it wouldn't make a single dent in Chromium's dominance. We vastly overstate the amount of people that even know what an adblocker is.
Even here on Lemmy, where most people are tech-savvy, a disturbing amount don't use adblockers. I've seen so many posts of people complaining about ads and they always have comments with people agreeing. A lot of the time they've got some completely illogical and stupid reason for it.
Nah it would make a big dent for sure.
Firefox has ~180 million users
Amount of users using adblockers is ~900 million.
It would massively change the market.
Numbers according to mozilla and statista
They explain nothing. They're in the same boat as all others: open source will let them keep MV2 longer than mainstream chrome, but that future is uncertain as the main project codebase starts to evolve around MV3 and backward compatibility to hack MV2 back in gets lost over time. Nobody here can make promises, and sites that make that make those judgments are naive.
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