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[-] Albbi@lemmy.ca 336 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

What! There's no way Trump uses Strava.

reads article

Oh, the bodyguards... that makes sense and is kinda smart to investigate.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 185 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Why would they let bodyguards use tracking apps? Are we really that bad at opsec?

[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 71 points 6 days ago

Trump is such an incompetent clown that he has a comedian thrash on US citizens in a US territory as a bigoted racist warm up act for his rallies. What do you think.

[-] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 6 days ago

Trump is not responsible for his security though, secret service is. Would think that those guys would know to not wear random trackers with them

[-] Bridger@sh.itjust.works 27 points 6 days ago

Pretty sure the secret service is responsible for protecting Trump. The rest of his campaign security is the job of the campaign, which is famously cheap.

And it's in the Secret Service's interest to have certain rules for any additional security operating an an event they're responsible for protecting. That's literally their job...

[-] Bridger@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

Yes but thr farther they get from the protected the less oversight.

I guess that depends on the reason they're further from the VIP. If it's because they're prepping for a visit, it should have just as much oversight as if they're with the individual. If they're merely doing mundane work (say, cleaning up after a visit), then sure, allow some leeway. But in general, if they're on the clock, they shouldn't have any trackers outside of ones issued for the purposes of their job.

[-] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

I'm not sure if it's still valid, but there was that whole debacle where he fired every secret service agent except for ones that backed him politically.

Would you think those guys would know to do something about a dude on a roof with a rifle?

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[-] dhork@lemmy.world 48 points 6 days ago

The article noted that the agents can't use their personal devices while on duty but of course they can while they are off duty. It mentioned that one of the guards took a jog while off duty, but that jog was from the hotel the President was staying at.

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 6 days ago

Still the agents mistake.

They could set the start/finish area to be masked, they could set their run info as private, they could have just the run stats (but no GPS) shared, etc.

This isn't a strava issue, just Secret Service Agents being bad about Secrets when doing their Service.

[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

They should definitely know better, especially as a few years ago it was in the news how you could map some US bases by the runs that soldiers were doing

[-] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago

Why would they let bodyguards use tracking apps? Are we really that bad at opsec?

Wrong question LOL. Better ask:

Are we really that bad at allowing tracking?

Yes you are. And once the data is collected, people are going to do things with the data.

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[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 20 points 6 days ago
[-] yemmly@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Yes, and we’re in denial about it.

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[-] benignintervention@lemmy.world 61 points 6 days ago

I used this exact thing as a teaching aid when I taught the ROTC opsec lesson. Also scared a couple kids pale when I told them Snapchat keeps a 6-month record of everything you send

[-] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 44 points 6 days ago

Also scared a couple kids pale when I told them Snapchat keeps a 6-month record of everything you send

Dick pics never get wiped 🐸

[-] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 days ago

hotdog

That app probably

[-] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 6 days ago

Only 6 months? Honestly I'm surprised it's so short of time frame.

[-] benignintervention@lemmy.world 30 points 6 days ago

I guess to be more specific, you can request 6 months of your data

[-] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 6 days ago

Ah that makes more sense

They probably horde that data like a Dragon hordes gold

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 12 points 6 days ago

The NSA has entire datacenters just to store your data.

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[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Some science magazines guessed something big was going on when many of their subscribers changed the delivery address to New Mexico.

They were working on the Manhattan Project.

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[-] tekato@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago

Politicians when they realize the commercialized espionage they’ve allowed also applies to them:

[-] zqps@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

Just like Angela Merkel's upset remark "you don't spy on your friends".

Well yes, dear Angela, they spy on everyone. And it's telling that the outrage came only because she was personally affected. The peasants' data and personal lives are fair game.

[-] unphazed@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

Trump's tracking: Golf, golf, McDs, court, golf, golf, court, Mcds, McDs, McDs, golf...

[-] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 days ago

There's no way Trump's usual McDs is in person

He has staff procure it for him

[-] umbraroze@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

I have a sports watch and the corresponding fitness app. I can confirm. "Sitting on one's ass at the restaurant" is not a fitness activity. HOWEVER. Some of my activities (e.g. walks) do terminate near fast food jonts. ...I dread what that kind of data analysis would yield on a major political figure.

[-] viking@infosec.pub 8 points 5 days ago

The article said that they track the movements of bodyguards. I doubt Trump or Biden use anything remotely related to fitness. Obama might have.

[-] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago

I am less surprised that the information is out there than I am that the bodyguards of such people are allowed to either bring along their personal devices or install random crap from the public app stores on their work devices.

[-] BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com 24 points 6 days ago

I still don't get why Strava activities are public by default and why they do not make their users aware of it. I remember having to rummage through the settings to make activities private by default.

[-] Alue42@fedia.io 36 points 6 days ago

I find this to be a breakdown of training, because the training was pretty clear years ago when I had clearance with the navy that we were never to use apps like this that could disclose location, not just while on-duty or on base, but at any time that our location could be given away. We were specifically not allowed to have Fitbits or other smart watches (Fitbit was the big one at the time) that could share location and any apps that wanted to know our location (yes, on our personal phones) needed to be cleared by IT because we were people that had been granted clearance and therefore could not give away critical location information.

The big scandal that got a lot of people into trouble was Pokemon Go, because not only did it use location, but I guess it used camera too? I didn't know, I didn't play it, but using cameras on base was a HUGE no-no, so using an app that shared location AND picture during your lunch break broke the brains of the COs.

It seems so weird to me that this is something that is so widespread right now. I didn't work for the navy anymore and haven't in a while, but I still follow the basic safety protocols about not sharing sensitive information.

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 17 points 6 days ago

Crazy. What's next? Can they track us with our phones too? 🤯

[-] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 29 points 6 days ago

Secret service lets them use normie phones loaded with normie apps?

[-] clgoh@lemmy.ca 43 points 6 days ago

Secret service leta them use normie phones loaded with normie apps?

No. At least not while they were on duty.

But they used their device while off-duty, but at the same hotel they were at.

[-] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 13 points 6 days ago

You won't need Strava to know Joe's at the ice cream parlour. Pffffff.

[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 6 days ago

You'd think the secret service were better at opsec than random soldiers getting their helicopters blown up.

[-] actually@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

I’ve intuited, maybe correctly, the service has become changed over the years and is not what it once was. Stuff like this makes me think that maybe my armchair analysis is correct

[-] roofuskit@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

Considering Trump almost got his head blown off because they let a guy sit on a roof with a rifle at a political rally for 5 minutes... that's not a stretch.

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[-] SpiceDealer@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

What is this "fitness" they speak of? It seems to be from overseas. Could someone explain this to an American like me?

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