Lol. Remember when W10 was to be the "final" one?
The "10 year OS" that was 2015. Guess profits got in the way.
Oh and 10 didn't track you enough or put enough ads in the OS.
This is just my own take, but I feel like at least part of the reason they went back to releasing new versions is because of the recent resurgence of macOS. Not only do Macs have the excitement of Apple Silicon, but they have annual "new" OS releases; even if not much has changed, it creates excitement with their fanbase. I think Microsoft realized that it's not very exciting to just be on Windows 10 forever. So we got Windows 11.
I think that Windows 11 is just a name and even if they hadn't named it that we would have gotten the same features as an update in Windows 10. Windows 11 is nothing more than an update. And Windows 12 probably won't be much different. Increasing the number version of Windows looks much better to the average user.
Well, Win10 Home and Pro EOL is late 2025, so it's tecnically correct...
Huh, and I've never even used Windows 11...
I didn't even know it had released yet. And at my job they're still using 10.
At my job there are many computers with Windows 7 still. I guess it doesn't really matter as long as the software we need keeps working.
Are those computers connected to the internet? Security updates for windows 7 were stopped in 2020.
with a 64-bit chip operating at a frequency of at least 1000 megahertz continuing to meet the requirements
Wrong. The requirement for Windows 11 is "processor introduced on the market after the year 2018, with absolutely no regards on its computational power" (with a single exception to the specific CPU of the $3500 Microsoft surface studio because they continued to sell the machine with the same old processor for five years)
For example an i7-7700K is "unsupported" but the much slower and with less features atom-based Celeron j4005 is "supported".
The hardware requirements are completely artificial and clearly decided in agreement with Intel and AMD in order to sell more new computers
Is 2018 maybe when TPM modules started going on every motherboard?
No, most tpm implementation nowadays are integrated in the CPU. And Intel 6th gen onwards have tpm 2.0 in the CPU, but they're not supported for "reasons"
Tpm was definately included in the 7000 series intels, along with nvme support etc.
That said tpm 2 is a bit more recent and more secure. That said. It’s lazyness on the part of Microsoft to require tpm 2
Nah, this is pure speculation. The only source is Microsoft saying they are working on some next gen stuff, could just as well be a major upgrade to W11.
KDE developers: okay so we're gonna switch to a floating taskbar so we look less like a Windows clone
Windows developers: hey guys I have a crazy idea
Key features include subscription fees, only-online capacity, baked in popup ads in every folder and directory, is slower than windows 7, and also streams your webcam to anyone who pays them enough.
/hj
So 2025 is the year I finally move my desktop to Linux and run windows in a VM I guess. I still have a few apps that just do not play nicely in Wine that would make transitioning fully more difficult, but I've been full Linux on my laptop for years. Maybe I can finally make the jump on PC.
I'm not usually a "Windows is terrible" kind of peron, but dramatically changing the main UI every 2 years is the fastest way to get me to change to Linux on my daily driver.
They are necessitating 8GB of RAM. for what?! Like, it would be a struggle to find a machine with less than 8GB still being sold new, sure, but why does the OS need that RAM?
Microsoft: "Gotta keep all of the telemetries and AI running 24/7 of course!"
Every day I'm closer to trying Linux again.
It's not that the OS needs that amount of RAM, it's that it's lifting the floor for what a modern PC will have, which is a good thing. I can't wait for the day windows requires an SSD.
Apparently they're going to move the system files to their own protected partition in 12, first good Microsoft change?
But I loved having Windows deciding it owns my boot partition and formatting over my bootloader
highly anticipated Windows 12
Microsoft wants to make the taskbar appear to float above the desktop by separating it from the desktop and rounding off the corners
Who gets excited about that!?
Plus, all the (always online, storing everything we say, type and look at) AI features should be looked at critically and not with high anticipation.
Looks like chromeOS a bit.
If the rumours of it running in the cloud are true, it'll act like it n'all.
...and we'll be calling it windowsOS 12. It has a revolutionary taskbar which is so new that we gave it an innovative new name: Dack!
chromeOS meets early KDE4. Weird. I don't like Windows 11 either so but I managed to get rid of most of the crap. Should've gone for Windows 10 on my gaming machine but since I use Ubuntu 99% of the time, it's not worth the effort. At least I figured out how to install and use Windows 11 without a Microsoft account. I'd rather depend on Steam on Linux than use a computer with a Microsoft account hooked in.
I'm seriously wondering if we've hit rock button in terms of UI flatness.
laughs in ubuntu
Will they actually manage to put all options in a single menu this time? Because it's hilarious that I have to use Options and the a Control Panel in Win11
It will be interesting to know how much AI integration it gets. To me, I think Microsoft will use it as an excuse for telemetry and personal data. They already explored ads on the OS, so I can imagine selling you stuff while trying to use AI tools while trying to do your work. May be a subscription to copilot.
They know that they capitalize can capitalize on AI faster than any major OS developer, but how much value will be given by the user?
Browsing your files? Why wouldn't you need an ad pushed in your face?
These are just the pictures of windows 11, just they made the taskbar float off the bottom
It seems suicidal of Microsoft to release the simplistic version as the first pictures again though...
Unless something changes, there will be options to move the buttons to the left of the bar and make it look closer to older versions again. Of course they could decide not to go that route, but they did this exact same awful release with 11.
Windows 11 still feels like a beta... Have they completely given up on quality?
I dunno how I feel about it. My desktop which is a port of 10-> 11 is fine. My laptop which is a w11 native, is all fucked up. The file path is c/wahots/Onedrive/desktop, and onedrive is broken, so I can't save files to certain directories. Even remapping directories doesn't work. It's a miserable experience. I'm thinking of backing up everything and getting some sort of clean license, as this Asus one is all fucked up.
I'm so damn glad I helped my whole family move over to Linux years ago.
Don't understand why it's so hard to create a consistent, clean looking windows UI. I get having to support ancient apps but so much of the experience feels unpolished
New Windows release already? Looks like Microsoft has realised that its old model of selling major upgrades was more profitable than the Windows 10 strategy.
Holy Shit Windows 11 just got Vista'd
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