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[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is getting wild with a 2 day old thread. I'm going to lock it.

Edit: It might not be troll baiting but rather some passionate takes. I took down the comments regardless if they were negative or not so it could settle down. Relax, you've probably already voted.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 135 points 2 weeks ago

"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 70 points 2 weeks ago

“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.”

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 28 points 2 weeks ago

If we're doing quotes, this Sartre one is good:

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7870768-never-believe-that-anti-semites-are-completely-unaware-of-the-absurdity

Basically they often know they're being absurd, but they don't care. They use language for power and effect, not truth.

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

That's more fascism than conservatism. But the two terms are used interchangeably enough these days that your statement holds. Modern day American conservatives don't wish to conserve anything. They wish to promote fascism.

[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

Fascism is just conservatism with the addition of hyper-nationalism and the blaming of minorities for all of society's problems.

But the core belief, that some groups are inherently better than others, is exactly the same.

[-] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago

They’d like to conserve the power imbalance currently in favor of white men and wealthy people.

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[-] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago

Trump just moved it to another level.

He is the In-group and everyone else is the Out-group all depending on how big of a shit he took in his diaper, how sweet the diet coke in his cup is, who the last he spoke to pointed him towards commenting at, and how many uppers he shoved down his throat with his big Mac.

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[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 99 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Obama was a national disgrace after he demeaned the office of the President. He'd put his feet on the Oval Office desk; he'd failed to properly salute his Marine guard; he wore a tan suit.

Trump restored dignity to the office by simulating oral sex at a campaign rally.*

*edit = To those who are sending comments pointing out other transgressions, I know I probably missed the one that offended you the most.

Talking about Trump is like talking about an anime that's been running for fifty seasons; if yopu talk about the hero fighting a dragon you have to specify which one.

[-] halykthered@lemmy.ml 55 points 2 weeks ago

Dude saluted a foreign military officer, to the confusion of all.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago

And then staged a coup after being responsible for more American deaths than all of our wars combined. I'm starting to think this guy may not be on our side...

And by desecrating a military graveyard.

[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 2 weeks ago

(On more than one occasion)

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[-] cogman@lemmy.world 92 points 2 weeks ago

Even better, they bitched and moaned about Epstein and Clinton (and probably still do). Trump is a special boy.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 68 points 2 weeks ago

Clinton flew on Epstein's plane or whatever.

Trump bragged about being best friends with Epstein and the kind of girls that Epstein always had around.

The hypocritical double standard of MAGA voters couldn't be more blatant if it was intentional.

Clinton should absolutely be investigated and the book thrown at him if he's guilty, though. Same as Trump.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yeah, but Trump has basically confessed already and his voters give him a free pass while Clinton has an association that should be looked into. They are not even close to the same thing, but maga voters are treating it as the opposite of reality where they don't care about Trump confessing.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

It is intentional. Saying "Nuh uh! You!" Prevents any actual discussion about their own actions because people get distracted and baited into a defensive stance. It's pretty silly that a toddler's defense is an effective federal political strategy.

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[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 53 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

To suggest Republicans only argue in bad faith is to suggest that water is transparent.

[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 weeks ago

Republicans hearing you mention "trans-parents"

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

Frantic sounds of stirring up as much muck in water as possible

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 51 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yesterday I watched some lady hand-wave away Trump's actions by saying "we're all sinners, and trump deserves our forgiveness just like we deserve Jesus' forgiveness". I mean, first of all, none of us deserve Jesus forgiveness. That's a core teaching in Christianity. The entire meaning of grace is that it's given regardless of worthiness. Secondly, what kind of wack-ass logic is that? She thinks trump is the better choice because of his crimes, since it makes him more human. I'm sorry, what? Then she went on to rant about how illegal aliens are destroying the country. So, I guess only rich assholes get the grace treatment, and poor immigrants get the stick.

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[-] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago

Elon wants to be taken back to the island

[-] Minarble@aussie.zone 40 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 weeks ago

That’s what made the whole idiotic “pizzagate” and “Q” thing especially staggeringly stupid - Trump was cast as a selfless hero working desperately to save society. In real life, obviously, he’s an intensely selfish narcissistic dickbag. Of all the ridiculous claims involved in that, Trump being a noble savior is the least believable.

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[-] robocall@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago

If Epstein died during the Biden administration, Biden would have been blamed, and if there were pictures of them together, and creepy video of Biden talking about Epstein's preference for young girls, it would have been the only thing Republicans would discuss for years. But when it's Trump - they are silent.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

They have always been hypocrites, assholes and cheaters.

Imagine if 9/11 happened during Obama's term and he just sat there with a stupid look on his face reading books to children, the right would have lost its shit.

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[-] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 weeks ago

Because they will attack at every weakness democracy has to destroy it. They are not moralists, they're invaders.

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[-] 418_im_a_teapot@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

You want hypocrisy? Wait until you see the 180° flip on mail-in voting after this election. They’ve been telling us for five years that mail-in ballots are all fraudulent. Now that Democrats are telling women they can use in-person voting to undermine their husbands, I guarantee they will push to make mail-in voting far easier and shut down more polling places.

3D chess my ass.

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

Jeez, Men getting upset at their wife being allowed to vote anonymously... What wimps.

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[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)
[-] 96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl 20 points 2 weeks ago

If you recognize it for what it is, why are you on that right-wing cesspool of an app?

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[-] workerONE@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

Has the audio actually been made available?

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's mind boggling how quickly the GOP became the Fake Party of Fakeness. Almost any claim they make, you can look up and easily find it's bullshit. It's like Trump said, "I love the uneducated!" The party thrives on ignorance now. The main force driving them is young men without college who are angry that they don't have more power. The party's message is just plant your feet on the ground and insist you're right until the other side throws up its hands and gives in, like the low self esteem gf who sticks with you no matter what because she's too dumb to realize she has options. Problem is, Americans know they have options now - and like the saying goes, We Won't Go Back. I'm really looking forward to this week.

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[-] Today@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

"you're opinion is garbage" vs "shoot her in the face"

[-] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

I was at a brewery a few months back when Biden was giving an announcement, this was before he dropped out of the race. I was mildly enjoying myself until some guy came in with his wife and just went off on Biden, and specifically orbited around "hunter needs him to stay in office so he can stay out of jail". Dude was wearing an FOP shirt so he's obviously an expert on knowing when felons should or shouldn't be in jail...

[-] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's more projection. Trump needs to win so he can stay out of jail. Probably the only reason he's running at all.

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[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 10 points 2 weeks ago

mfw it was actually about primate dominance hierarchies and not any kind of code of morality all along.

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