At some point I have to start wondering if Putin pays these sorts of people.
Translating .ml rules as they're actually enforced:
Those rules are enforced regardless of the piece of criticism being valid or invalid.
The thread the comment was in. Seemed like a very relevant question.
https://lemmy.world/post/21619412
Note that dessalines isn’t even a moderator of the community, but a lemmy.ml instance admin. Instance rule 1 is related to bigotry, so according to Lemmy dev dessalines, it’s bigoted to ask the russian population if they are oppressed or support their country invading ukraine.
That's mod rule 1. Admin rule #1 is "Don't get visited by the KGB".
Maybe we shouldn't hang out on servers where Russia has jurisdiction.
Wait are you exaggerating/joking or is ML literally hosted in Russia?
The domain is registered in Mali, hence .ml. Not sure where Dessalines and Nutomic are from.
I like it here on lemmy. But people like this being main devs leaves sour taste to it
I think a lot of people are going to switch to piefed once that gets more fleshed out. It federates with all lemmy but has a different and more open dev team working on it. They already have a bunch of cool features lemmy is currently lacking.
Piefed looks like an interesting project for sure. I don't know much about it though - are they getting close to feature parity with Lemmy?
In many ways they already are ahead. The front end is a bit wonky though, and some of the foundational features are still catching up (it's fully functioning though).
For one thing, they have "categories" of communities, and for another I can block all users from any instance I choose - though there is really no easy way to accomplish that while still on Lemmy proper.
But like when you upvote something, later it remembers that but won't show you the color. The interface is really pretty though, and solves several of the issues I had with Lemmy, like another one is that you can turn on viewing or both the upvote and separate downvote counts, which for Lemmy iirc you can only see that for comments, but for posts that only shows on the mobile site yet not on the desktop for some reason.
The PieFed devs are super responsive, quite extraordinary so imho. It's like they care or something (uh... cause they do, ofc!:-).
So especially since Lemmy is not perfect either, check out both Mbin and PieFed and just see them in action without an account, just for the fun of it.:-)
There's no way Python and Flask are going to scale as well as Rust. It's going to require more hardware to run and be able to handle fewer users.
The DB is all that matters. Python can scale very well through parallelization. So long as one doesn't restrict themselves to one process, there's really little chokepoint.
Now i recall why there's a push against migrating to lemmy when reddit blackout happened. I thought it doesn't really matter, turns out they're right.
It would be much better if more servers actively defederated or limited their server, that way the things they say and do would have less effect on the other servers that aren't affiliated with them.
Yeah, it was and is the major issue with lemmy I think.
On the other hand, it's an open source project amd there are likely other contributors that don't agree with them ideologically. And as long as you don't interact with the .ml instance it should not effect you.
There will be assholes everywhere.
Tankies gonna tank. Never question the orthodoxy in an echo bunker.
I feel like using Lemmy.ml here is cheating.
perhaps I should have posted in !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works but that sub is basically preaching to the choir
Still good to collect stuff there
You can cross-post it there, I feel like there is merit to having this get as much exposure as possible. Also !modabuse@lemmy.sdf.org is another good one, it's a bit smaller but still good place to share stuff like this.
The best reason to use MWoG is how much its existence upsets the tankies. Dessalines in particular is obviosly extremely fragile.
Pick whatever instance you find first, they said. It doesn't really matter which one, you can participate all over lemmy, they said.
Now every time i post a comment, people automatically assume I'm pro Russia and a tankie on account of having an account on lemmy.ml
This sucks. I can't believe I'm gonna have to migrate instances to be taken seriously on discussions.
Remember in the early days of the Fediverse when people said it was all about "freeze peach"? Yeah that was not good. Not only is it wrong and would disappoint and piss off a lot of people when they learn about defederation and that you can still get banned, but it also attracts a lot of extremely rotten people to the platform. Remember exploding-heads? Yeah that was a side effect of that lie to try and promote the Fediverse.
Don't migrate because of the assumers; migrate to not subject yourself to an incompetent admin team.
Tankies haven't learned that ignoring things to reduce visibility tend to be more effective censorship than creating a streisand effect.
That's how the west learnt to do deal with it. Manipulate it in the backend, not the front, and if caught, blame it on a bug.
Ye that's a ptb
I feel like we need something along the lines of "ML - Yes, that's lemmy.ml" added to the acronym list. Or maybe "WKB - Well known bastards"?
I legit would not be surprised if Dessalines takes money from some unsavory people to operate .ml as a kind of information war training ground.
User donations are certainly not generating him any real cash flow.
I could see a strong argument for personal safety around such a question (potential for self-incrimination and going through windows) but bigotry is a head scratcher.
What's rule 1 anyway? I don't want to wade into that cesspool to find out?
Rule 1 is whatever they want it to be. They don't moderate anything in good faith at ml.
much like codes of conduct I feel like it's a false flag to handwave bad moderation using questionable interpretations of subjective terminology.
instance rule 1 is no bigotry.
Since dessalines is not a mod but an instance admin I assume that’s the justification for the removal.
"Open-ended question"
Edit: Why you two downvoting this? I literally just quoted the rule to answer their question. lol
I think the instance reason was why it was removed. Otherwise that would be extremely weird enforcement of open ended questions rule. Enforcing it on a random comment, while the original post itself is a single yes/no question…
To be fair, the first part of the sentence kinda sounds like an accusation against Russians. However, it isn't something i would consider worthy to be deleted.
I remember when the Ukraine war started and in the comments of one of the first reddit posts were full of Russian people saying how they hated it and they just wanted peace. Nowadays I can't remember the last time I saw someone who is Russian on reddit or Lemmy really.
This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
Some acronyms you might see.
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