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[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 157 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Why is there such an obsession with immigration?

Do you want to pick strawberries? It's back-breaking and sucks.

E: thanks for all the replies. I wrote this while pissed about the results, it was supposed to be rhetorical.

At this point, work on helping immigrant friends and neighbors however you can, whether by helping with immigration paperwork or "other"methodologies.

[-] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 127 points 3 weeks ago

If you need a scapegoat, you pick one that can't defend itself as easy.

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 38 points 3 weeks ago

Sure, the unborn work for that too.

I just wonder what is so scary about immigrants to people?

[-] rockerface@lemm.ee 23 points 3 weeks ago

Being different is scary enough for those that lack education (either willingly or due to circumstances out of their control)

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

This is America, and they aren't white. They don't speak white.

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago

Well they're all lazy criminal welfare queens who are also taking all of our jobs somehow, don't you read the right wing propag- I mean, news?

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[-] then_three_more@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

This was what the UK discovered after Brexit

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[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 3 weeks ago

The obsession is because that's the news friendly way of answering with "racism".

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[-] cabbage@piefed.social 116 points 3 weeks ago

I think we have to accept that the American electorate actually wants fascism.

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 114 points 3 weeks ago

I love how Economy is a high priority, yet they voted for the asshole known being the genius behind several bankruptcies. "The economy isn't doing good, clearly we need someone who can fuck shit up to make it work!"

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 43 points 3 weeks ago

Unironically, I think that was the thought process.

Hard to vote for someone who is telling you all is well and the people that got the country here are competent and mean well, when the country is going through 5 different crises, all preventing you from living a decent life.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Exactly. Harris was tasked with defending and indefensible record. It's that simple.

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[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago

The American electorate:

[-] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 100 points 3 weeks ago

Economy? Ah yes, let's elect the person that wants to put 100% sanctions on literally everything. Masterful gambit sirs. Ya'll can rot in hell!

[-] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 58 points 3 weeks ago

Also side note, America's economy is held up by cheap immigrant labor, so way to double dunk.

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 61 points 3 weeks ago

The news says the Republicans are better at [the economy] because they are. How are they better. Because they are better for the economy. Who crashed the economy the last four times it's happened Republicans. They're so good at economy!

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

They're never around for the rebound though. They leave the Democrats to pick up the pieces and the stupid fucks that voted for trump only see that gas was cheaper 5 years ago, so that must mean that trump's economy was better!

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[-] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 57 points 3 weeks ago

Also, I love how no one gives a shit about the ecological apocalypse. This is why I kept telling you guys: let the hurricanes destroy everything. No more FEMA. Americans clearly don’t care.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 55 points 3 weeks ago

Economy

This is Trump's economy, you idiots. This is the fallout from his incompetence and malice. But heaven forbid voters understand basic principles which rule their lives.

[-] kava@lemmy.world 47 points 3 weeks ago

i think you give too much credit to Trump. the economy has been rigged against the working class for a long time. it's just getting progressively more brutal which makes people feel increasingly insecure.

an insecure working class elects strongmen who promise simple solutions

[-] treesapx@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

The best, simplest summation I've seen. Thank you. I've been searching for something to make sense of it and this is definitely it. Being forced into voting for the "least worst" candidate obscures where that path is headed by either candidate.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

It's the pattern in American politics that has existed since I was born: Republicans fuck the economy, Democrats do their best to fix it, people blame the Democrats for the bad economy and elect Republicans who fuck it up even more.

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[-] Suspiciousbrowsing@kbin.melroy.org 43 points 3 weeks ago

Racism less important, immigration more important.. that's interesting..

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 40 points 3 weeks ago

Blame the news media. They sane washed Trump.

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[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago

Another thing that's barely on the chart: Foreign Policy, some fraction of which would be the genocide.

It just wasn't the influential issue that much of Lemmy wished it were, and clearly not the reason Harris lost.

[-] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 weeks ago

Exactly. For all the talk of the Palestine/Israel genocide being a reason people didn't vote Harris, this poll certainly makes it seem like less of the issue. What the fuck happened? I'm genuinely ashamed to live in the States.

[-] BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

What the fuck happened?

Four years of a milquetoast, centrist Democrat telling the American people what they're living isn't the actual reality of the situation. Biden's admin kept rolling out the "soft landing, economy is doing great," schtick despite numerous news outlets reporting Americans don't feel like it's an economy working for them.

Then that Democrat finally stepping aside, too late for his constituents to have a say in who they want representing them. And then she ran on a centrist, return-to-the-status-quo platform that didn't inspire the majority of Americans, who are so apathetic based on decades of being ignored by politicians they just don't vote. Because what's the point?

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 14 points 3 weeks ago

Remember that people who considered foreign policy (aka Gaza) to be the most important didn't vote. People who voted Harris did so because they either thought some other issue was more important or just didn't care. I think you'll get better insights from a "why didn't you vote" survey. That said it's definitely not the only reason Harris lost; it was her complete and utter failure at campaigning that allowed Trump to go around collecting swing states like they're fucking MTG cards.

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[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago

It's simple, and history has borne this out many many times.

In a bad economy, no one cares about your politics if you're the candidate of change. There's a reason why Harris spent two months repeating memes instead of defending Biden's policies, because it's impossible to defend the fact that you had four years to rule and there are more people working 2-3 jobs just to survive.

They knew they needed to appeal to workers. Instead, they spent most of the campaign repeating this meaningless platitude about joy to people who are being worked to death.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 weeks ago

In a bad economy, no one cares about your politics

That's no excuse for electing someone whose stated policies and politics will fuck the economy even further and faster.

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[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 weeks ago

Also, there were plenty of people who were never going to vote for a woman, no matter what.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I'm sure that's true too, but that's not the reason she lost, and Democrats will continue to stack losses if that's the narrative that they go with.

Democrats haven't been ceding male voters to Republicans for 16 years because they hate women. It's because, in the liberal and activist communities, it's become customary and accepted to treat men like shit.

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[-] uis@lemm.ee 34 points 3 weeks ago

Healthcare: 8%

That explains why americans in America are provided with less(no at all) healthcare than american tourisis in fucking Russia.

[-] uis@lemm.ee 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

This is what happens if any foreigner for example breaks bone in Russia:

  1. Emergency, including emergency specialized, medical care is provided to foreign citizens in case of sickness, accident, trauma, poisining and other cases requireing emergency treatment. Such medical treatment provided by state and municipal healthcare organizations is free of charge.
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[-] anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 30 points 3 weeks ago

You don't win an election just with vibes.

Kamala didn't bring as much substance as what the left electorate was expecting from her, and couldn't differentiate herself from Biden and the current term she is serving under. The whole democratic party went under because all they promise is vibes compared the current economical struggles people are facing.

[-] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

The truth is the dems are a right wing party now, they've been dragged there by the rethugs.. and people Want to vote for an Actual left wing party, but there literally isnt one in the US.

[-] anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 weeks ago

The dems were never left wing in international standards. otherwise you would already have had universal health care.

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[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago

Immigration is such a horseshit issue. Why are people dumb enough to fall for this shit?

Immigration will be "solved" come January, but not because Trump will actually do anything about it, but he'll just say the problem is solved and then stop talking about it.

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[-] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Honestly, I hope Trump and his republican dumb fucks go through with their tariff plan to "save" the much improved economy. Americans deserve it.

[-] Freefall@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Americans deserve everything that is about to happen.

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[-] dan1101@lemm.ee 14 points 3 weeks ago

Because too many people are selfish and think that things are bad so might as well make them worse.

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

They forgot the most important thing: Lead poisoning

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Wait... This chart is hard to read. This chart is ... "how much more important these issues are to people as a percentage, than they were as a percentage in 2020?"

really? I must be reading this wrong

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