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[-] Sagittarii@lemm.ee 6 points 20 hours ago

NCD not beating the MIC bootlickers allegations

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 day ago

NATO will be fine. They'll just have to up their game a bit militarily. If America wants to be insular and wrap a flag of isolationism around them, it'll hurt in the short term, but after four years of being more independent of Americas tit, its more than likely the US that will find itself less relevant globally.

Even before this, there was already rumblings, not just in China, but elsewhere, about ditching the american dollar standard and returning to the gold standard. That's just going to gain momentum as soon as Trump starts trying to wave his mushroom around.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 16 hours ago

calling the shots in europe is part of the us strategy to perpetuate imperialism. nato wont go anywhere.

[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 3 points 20 hours ago

Now watch red maga walk back on that too, like all of blue/red maga promises.

The only good thing that could've possibly come out of this, and it won't even happen.

[-] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 133 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Good job to all of the fucks who stayed home because of Gaza, thinking that not voting and letting the GOP rise to power would actually help the situation.

Yeah, because Netanyahu's extreme right-wing policy was a problem with the US's left-wing party, right?

[-] Bobmighty@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

Fucking chat bots convinced enough dipshits to stay home that our country was taken by fascists. Humanity is doomed.

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago

I doubt Gaza was the deciding factor for 20 million people, but I could be wrong. Especially since anyone that aware of the whole would see trump would worsen the situation not improve it. I'm curious why they did stay home.

I also guess Americans don't want a woman president and they do want a hard crackdown on migrants. Especially Latinos, who apparently overwhelmingly came out for trump.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

It was a multitude of reasons, Twitter being in the hands of Elon (who pushed the hashtags #genocidejoe and #holocaustharris, but I wouldn't be surprized if he also misinformed people about the election dates), other social media stopped enforcing their community guidelines to be "unbiased", media was way harder on Kamala than on Trump (including the downplaying of the mental decay and insanity of Trump), the whole "let's try to appeal to moderate conservatives" thing, etc.

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago

The entire capital class rallied around trump. Bezos and Musk.. media is owned by them, so the bias against Harris, asking things of her they did not ask from Trump.. sanewashing Trumps ramblings.

Your elections where "stolen".. by the billionaires.. through totally legit means.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

They're only "legit" if the people are letting them to be.

[-] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 1 day ago

I also guess Americans don’t want a woman president and they do want a hard crackdown on migrants. Especially Latinos, who apparently overwhelmingly came out for trump.

Latinos voting for hard crackdowns on immigrants is the biggest "fuck you, I've got mine" energy I've ever seen.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

And they will be so fucking shocked when ice comes for them.

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[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 184 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean if Europe wants to increase their military funding and move items in house I think that would be a wonderful idea. Because America is not a reliable partner in this at all in the past two decades.

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[-] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 57 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Nato without USA is still bigger military than Russia.

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[-] mamotromico@lemmy.ml 2 points 20 hours ago

For people outside NATO it hasn’t been credible for a long time now.

[-] Juice@midwest.social 2 points 15 hours ago

For people inside NATO its surprising how much credibility they have considering how much just straight terrorism they've carried out over the years. Defensive alliance my arse

[-] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world -2 points 14 hours ago

I don't think NATO is in any danger. Trump has a very aggressive and bombastic style of negotiation. You saw this with NAFTA. Trump called it the worst agreement in the history of the world. But the USMCA is just NAFTA with a new acronym and now it's apparently the BEST trade agreement in the history if the world. Its the same with Trump and NATO. The Europeans are the worst freeloaders in the history of the universe...until they up their defense spending by half a percentage point to appease the Donald, and then NATO will be the best alliance ever. Typical bombastic bullshit.

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