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And I'm being serious. I feel like there might be an argument there, I just don't understand it. Can someone please "steelman" that argument for me?

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[-] RatzChatsubo@lemm.ee -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Many people gave up the "vote blue no matter who" sentiment after seeing the results of blue politicians in 2016 and 2020. It's no surprise people are voting with their hearts more than settling for less now.

What's interesting is that the Republican party welcomed in these neglected voters. Can you blame them? The Democratic party doesn't even promote progressive policies anymore. The Democratic party is now the pro-war party too.

I'm not surprised that Trump won. Hilary, Harris, and Biden were all terrible choices

Personally I think people like Tulsa Gabbard and Andrew Yang are playing the long game within the Republican party as the Democrats shut down any chance for change.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world -4 points 3 weeks ago

You actively participate in the murder of people.

If enough people did not participate the murder would simply not happen.

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[-] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 3 weeks ago

It's not Gaza. It's that the Dems are a party of the riches. They don't represent the poorer anymore. When you have this political shift, you open the doors of the far right.

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[-] BonerMan@ani.social -5 points 3 weeks ago

Oh it was, she was way to restrictive on Israel.

Also the argument for most of the voters was "woman" wich isn't my opinion (I'm not voting in USA) but its clear that the minorities she counted on... Don't like her.

[-] answersplease77@lemmy.world -5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Intresting that we have 20+ different opinions and answers on this post alone, and many are subjectively right.

My answer would be that Kamala is just another pro-genocide lying ghoul who is bought by lobbyists from different sectors who don't represent the left or working class. Trump is at least honest about being a bought pro-genocide ghoul, and that you can look at in the eyes and fight and protest against unlike genocide joe who still until this morning supports Israel with every war crime imagineable while letting Blinken and miller play mental gymnastics in hypocracy in confrences that "they're trying their best" to end the "war" while sending $25+ billions in military weapons to an ethnostate genocidal aparthied.
With that given,

1- It's more exausting and fruitless to fight a murderous war criminal who keeps lying than one is honest about what they want. We just want a clear enemy and be aware of it because we have been fighting a hidden enemy all this time.

2- In short it's the "let it all burn down" logic. You saw that viral clip of Kamala voter shouting at a kid "I don't give a fuck about Gaza bitch!" ?
Emotions and psychology dictate that if I was unrepresented working class, or considered a single-issue voter because of genocide, or an Arab American whose family getting slaughtered by my government and with my tax money, then I wouldn't to want help other issues and would want to see everyone suffers more on all other issues because Kamala would not change anything and probably help improve all other issues other than mine which in my and every fair and just reality is more important than all others.
It's because the alternative is to suffer a slower and longer painful death while no one changing anything anyway.

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