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He's not really gonna get rid of the ACA right?
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here's the thing though: they'll abolish the ACA, and when people start complaining, they'll just blame everything on mexicans.
and trump voters will 10000000% believe it
blame everything on mexicans
I'm sorry, it's all my fault and I take full responsibility. I'll make tamales with atole for the victims of my reckless Mexican behavior. 😔
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“Illegals smuggle our patriotic, expensive insulin out of the US, and we gotta build a wall facing the other direction to keep them in this time! We’ll use tariffs to get Mexico to pay for it!”
by jan we will be so consumed by the flavour of the month culture war (trans muslim librarians are coming for your pizza gate!) that they wont even notice its happening.
by the time they need it they'll forget who even took it away.
by the time they vote they'll just think trump saved them from leftist death panels or some shit.
edit: oh shit, the q-anon nuts are going to sprout again arn't they... le sigh
trans muslim librarians are coming for your pizza
So what type of pizza do they like? Gotta get ready for January!
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This is what you voted for 💅
Oh god dammit.
It just occurred to me that unless there's some state thing Im unaware of, when I divorce, once the damn ACA gets pulled she won't have insurance and I'm on the hook for medical shit for 5~ years.
God fucking dammit. Just another reason these goddamn Nazi bastards needed to be taken care of before the election.
Hah! Look at you, thinking you'll be able to divorce in a few years from now. Haven't seen project 2025?
I'm going to just assume that this is a man so he'll be able to divorce just fine. Getting rid of no fault divorce is just for women so they are kept in the marriage where they're abused.
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Well last time they tried to get rid of it, but John McCain sank that effort as if failed 49-51. Just before he died of cancer.
Now all the John McCains have been purged from the GOP and they will have a bigger senate majority, and likely a significant house majority too. So if there is an effort to repeal the ACA, it'll very likely pass.
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"I didn't think it would hurt me." - Trump voters for the next four years.
As a school bus driver, I work with a bunch of older people who are already utterly dependent on social security and medicare to have any semblance of a life that doesn't involve living in a tent in the park and dumpster diving for dinner. They are mostly trumpers. We're all Teamsters as well, and a few are married lesbians (and these are the most rabidly pro-trump of all). I have made a few attempts to convince them that trump (and Republicans for fucking decades) are out to destroy social security, medicare, unions and gay rights (among lots of other things) - but they reacted to me like I had grown an extra head. Somehow they've convinced themselves that the GOP is the original source and the protector of these things.
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What's ACA?
The Affordable Care Act, the US public marketplace for private insurance. Ignorantly referred to by conservatives as socialism.
Years back, before Republicans realized it's good (as they eventually do with all social programs), I had an aunt say "I'm on that Obama care and it's awful!" So we asked which plan she's on and she just kept saying "I already told you, it's Obamacare."
I think the average Republican voter does not understand that it is private insurance
the average Republican voter does not understand
You can just stop there, and be correct about almost any topic.
I had to explain tax brackets to my mother.
She's got a degree to teach math. And I know she actually went to college since I can remember sitting in the back of her classrooms when she couldn't find a babysitter.
She used to do her own taxes and my grandparents taxes.
But, as a teenager, I had to explain why a potential $2 raise doesn't mean she's losing more money in taxes than the raise is giving her.
She also doesn't believe the welfare cliff exists, despite our family being precariously perched atop it when I was in elementary school.
At this point I think she's just heard the same stupid shit repeated over and over, she doesn't even question it anymore.
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Not even close to socialism or affordable. Currently paying $2400 a month on an ACA plan because my employer's benefits don't cover the services my disabled child requires.
Jfc, that's my mortgage at least 4 times over. Any money spent on your kid is well spent, but it's horrible that you must sacrifice that much.
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Affordable care act, also referred to as Obamacare. The name Obamacare was coined by republicans the actual name of the legislation was the affordable care act
The ACA was basically a federal version of Romneycare. It was cowritten by Republicans who as a party instantly forgot that they helped write it and demonized it.
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What was said here is correct, but I wanted to add that almost all the things everyone hates about ACA was also mostly brought on by Republicans that wouldn't vote for it unless sections of it were modified. Democrats took what they could get and figured it could be revisited later to fix that at some point. Instead, the opposite happened, and it was handicapped even more by Republicans and here we are, where most people just believe democrats forced this awful plan upon us that is making everyone pay huge amounts of money.
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Folks who voted for concepts of a healthcare plan have nothing to fear, I’m sure.
If I have any Trump supporting acquaintances ever show a sliver of remorse to me, I'm going to bury them in ridicule. I know it's not effective and is counter productive, but I can say this knowing 1. It's never going to happen and 2. Idgaf and I'm taking my shots when I get them, because fuck these people all to Hell. I've already cut out a brother, I will happily burn these connections.
Nah, don’t mock the remorseful it’ll dig them in. Mock the unrepentant
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Tell them Trump didn't win, Putin did.
Since Trump is just a Russian asset that is selling US state secrets to Putin.
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it's been 9 fucking years and we can't take Trump at his fucking word?
Yes it will be repealed.
An Alex Jones inspired health plan will replace it.
The Trump government will propose the carnivore diet as healthy. Vaccines will be banned. Only Alex Jones Nutraceuticals will be prescribed by doctors. Cardio will be state mandated as an official LGTBQ activity, along with voguing, cardio voguing. Beards will be mandatory, whether you can grow one or not. The only clothing that will be allowed for men will be jeans, stupid meme shirts, motard gear, and line 9 apparel.
The life expectancy for American males will tank to around 50, women and vaccines will be blamed.
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People should start using the term "cancel" for this, instead of "repeal". Conservative cancel culture is a very old tradition.
If Trump repeals the ACA it's BIDENS Fault! I'm a Republican who does their Own Research!
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The assumption to make here is that Trump is willing to try to do everything he's said. This is a guy who literally tried to ban Muslims after all.
Personally, I think that the tumult of his administration is going to get in the way of its own agenda, as evidenced by his first presidency. Half of the people on his staff will be gone before the first year is out, and Trump is going to spend more time golfing than he will actually governing. His biggest focus will be on monetizing the presidency, and he surrounds himself with incompetent sycophants.
These and other factors make it difficult to say what he will actually achieve.
As for the ACA, it was a conservative court that stopped him the first time, so the SCOTUS is no slam dunk. I don't think anyone can definitively state what will happen with regards to health care in this country.
JD Vance was made his running mate cause JD Vance is down with project 2025 and will be doing the actual running of things.
So it doesnt matter what Trump is off doing. JD Vance will be back at the office, doing the nasty work that trump will rubber stamp.
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Just start laughing about loud and point at them with your arm fully extended. We should start shaming people in a more direct primal way again. Shame is probably the most powerful feeling (maybe second to "ahh oh my god I'm dying??!!!!!!!??" however you want to call that)
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They didn't do anything about it the last time he was in office and just talked about a replacement plan that never materialized. What makes it seem more likely they'll actually remove it this time?
Serious question. I didn't really mean to make it sounds as snarky as it looks on a reread.
If John McCain hadn't basically gotten out of his death bed to vote no on repeal, it would have been gone.
This is the real answer. It can down to McCain's very dramatic Nay vote because they didn't have a replacement plan.. You can watch it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TLz2uQEtGo
Fuck Kyrsten Sinema and her fucking curtsy.
I know it was during the $15 minimum wage vote and not the ACA vote, but this thread reminded me of it.
With Trump in the White House, Republican control of the Senate and likely the House, and a stacked Supreme Court, there's nothing to stop him from tearing down whatever he wants. There doesn't have to be a replacement plan. Insurance companies will applaud the end of ACA mandates, which will let them sell policies without minimum government requirements for coverage and they can go back to denying coverage for "pre-existing"conditions. It's going to screw over a lot of people.
That's not entirely true. Everyone forgets there was an individual mandate penalty that his administration & congress repealed.
Anyone remember how the ACA assessed a tax on those who were not insured? (with income based exceptions). The tax was meant to feed into the ACA and keep plans in the marketplace cheaper, and to stop the program from adding to the federal deficit.
Once the trump administration came in they worked with Congress to eliminate that tax penalty.
Here is a helpful article that talks about the penalty and what the early findings showed when it was removed.
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