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mensrights is a pretty terrible place, honestly.
How? What is so terrible about it? To me it looks like a place for men to vent about unfair treatment.
I am looking at the threads and one guy was sent to jail after consentual sex, another thread was about someone who was taught in school that "men and boys should sacrifice their lives for others".
These are topics that deserve discussion but more importantly they deserve to be conveyed without fear of bans from one of the biggest entertainment communities by some misandrist automod.
Or is there a "proper" subreddit for these kind of discussions that I don't know about?
Or is there a "proper" subreddit for these kind of discussions that I don't know about?
I haven't vetted these beyond a quick look, but anything using the term "men's liberation" is likely to be better than "men's rights":
- !mensliberation@lemmy.ca
- https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib/
- https://www.reddit.com/r/mensliberation/
- https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/
The "men's rights movement" is just a bunch of reactionary grifters exploiting male discontent and weaponizing it against the usual scapegoats. They don't give a shit about you.
Men's liberation on the other hand is the counterpart to women's liberation/feminism. Both are in favor of gender equality, though feminism tends to focus on women's issues, so men's lib focuses on men's issues.
oh I wholeheartedly agree that these are valid topics, it's just that mensrights doesn't do that.
they are just openly misogynistic. and extremely toxic and shitty towards women. i tried to join a while ago in support of men's rights. i was endlessly sexualized, mocked, and insulted. extremely scary kind of things. threats of rape, the whole nine yards.
yes those issues are extremely important, but the subreddit devolved into an incel misogynist hellhole. it's toxicity is pretty well known.
I only go there for entertainment purposes. But that is no reason for a ban. I didn't break any of their listed rules in r/interstingasfuck.
Here's a good tip, block all moderation bots on Reddit. That stops them from doing actions they aren't entitled to as moderators like DMing you or checking post history outside of their subreddits.
The most notorious is u/BotDefense
u/SafestBot and u/SaferBot are other commonly used ones.
Some other ones I've come across are:
- u/pexl-SENSE
- u/bot-swatter
- u/SpamBustr
- u/SpambotSwatter
- u/banhammerapp
- u/hive-protect
- u/evasion-guard
These are what I would call ban-by-association bots and I recommend blocking all these and any others you come across as it'll decrease the amount of erroneous bans like this you receive on Reddit. There's no easy way to identify them reliability so look through the moderators list before posting on any given sub and block ones that seem suspicious.
Also yes I'm aware this will help spammers and trolls and I don't care, Reddit needs to die and people need to move on, spam helps loosen network effect by making it unbearable for normies, and even more unbearable for power users (the people who post the content that gets consumed). This information is way more valuable for users to counter abusive mod practices (like banning by association automatically) than it is harmful via the spam it creates as a byproduct.
block ~~all moderation bots on~~ Reddit
this equation can be radically simplified
We are in the era of the Dead Internet Theory. There's no point to being online just to fight bots. I've banned these accounts but I'm only on Reddit for the communities that aren't on Lemmy.
Thanks for the list.
Oh for sure. The name bot or spam defense is really a lie or doublespeak, their real purpose is anti-competition by automatically banning people who post in different subreddits. Combating spam isn't their real purpose (they just say that because you can't openly violate moderator CoC, you can only do it if you say you aren't doing it), it's making people afraid to visit competing subreddits or punish people for using subreddits the mods of the current subreddit hold a grudge against.
it's filled with incels and open misogynists. what entertainment is to be had?
Honestly, what were you doing on Reddit in the first place?
Some communities are only on Reddit.
Many subreddit consider one participating in certain communities a massive red flag so this kind of situation is typical. Not PTB but questionable of there's no one indication of which subreddit are a problem
I checked that subreddit out and it says on their page that "WARNING: Some other subs have bots that will ban you if you post or comment here."
I also looked at the content and I don't see what is so toxic about that subreddit. Men's issues are extremely downplayed in today's society, so it sounds to me like r/interstingasfuck are moderated by a bunch of misandrists.
Not sure why this surprises you, it's an incel subreddit. Certain places have no tolerance rules for extremist places.
I think (If I read it right) they're being banned for posting /r/mensrights garbage to other subs.
either way they're making poor choices on how to spend their life, ugh
Nah, some subs have their automod set up to check what other subs you post/comment on, and possibly ban you depending on what comes up. It's a heuristic for filtering out toxic users. I wasn't aware until OP's post that they also provide an automated way to undo the ban if you delete the offending posts/comments.
Wow, the ban just says it's for posting in MensRights and that no other context was looked at. That's silly, even if MensRights is as toxic as everyone here makes it out to be(Idk, never been there).
It's very toxic. One step be fore inceldom
From reading the message, the way they have it set up actually seems fairly reasonable, considering the scale of what they have to deal with. It's basically just saying "you can't participate both there and here, so pick one".
If you desperately want to participate in both, you can make an alt account. Most people won't bother with that and will just pick one or the other, which cuts out a significant chunk of toxic users.
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