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Anti-Trump protests erupt across US from New York City to Seattle (www.theguardian.com)

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[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 154 points 6 days ago

This was one of the main reasons why I was looking forward to Harris winning ... so that everyone in the world could just stop talking about dumb American politics for a while

Now it looks like it's all we'll ever talk about at the expense of talking about every other important thing in the world ... such as our long term survival as a species on this planet.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 108 points 6 days ago

The unfortunate truth is that a Trump win is relevant to our long term survival as a species. He's likely to push anti-pollution deregulation, prioritize fossil fuels, refuse to uphold international agreements on climate change policy, etc. That's on top of the damage he will do to international trade, charitable efforts, world health, immigration, and war. He is far from the only problem in all of those areas, but unfortunately he's likely to be involved with just about all of it, and improve none of it. As an American, I'm so so sorry.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 42 points 6 days ago

"Drill baby drill, frack baby frack".

Trumps literal words at a rally leading up to the election. And people cheered.

This should tell you all you need to know. If you recycle, if you carpool, if you use public transportation. If you have a compost pile. If you refuse to buy plastic water bottles, and styrofoam plates. If you do everything you can to reduse, reuse, and recycle, fuck you. Your efforts are in vein. All of it is being undone on a global industrial scale. Purposefully. With tax breaks for the oil tycoons who pollute the most.

This is what we're in for.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

To be fair I explicitly remember Harris saying she heavily supported tracking in the debate. I think the US local pollution will increase much faster than the global pollution.

[-] btaf45@lemmy.world 32 points 6 days ago

The unfortunate truth is that a Trump win is relevant to our long term survival as a species.

You actually missed the biggest thing of all. Trump's new world disorder is going to create an explosion of nuclear proliferation. In the new environment, countries can no longer rely on the US nuclear umbrella as they have for the past 70 years. Every country will rightly want to have their own nuclear weapons now. And the shear amount of new countries that are going to have their own nuclear weapons is going to guarantee a disaster sooner or later.

[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

I hope you're wrong, this is fucking terrifying.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 21 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

That ball started rolling in 2014 when we did fucking NOTHING in response to Russia annexing Crimea. Seriously, I consider that one moment to be Obama’s most catastrophic foreign policy failure.

And this is now why Ukraine has openly said they’re considering a crash nuclear weapons program - which they can do, because they had a lot of former Soviet personnel that operated and maintained Soviet nukes back in the day, and a lot of very fucking motivated and intelligent citizens who would absolutely love it if they could make Russia fuck off from their territory for good.

Nukes are the absolute final word in maintaining sovereignty and territorial integrity. Ukraine would not be getting invaded now if they still had a few warheads stashed in a bunker being quietly maintained. But they signed the Budapest Memorandum, and gave them up in exchange for “security guarantees and assurances” which were ultimately thrown on the floor. Nobody will EVER make that deal again.

TL;DR: Nuclear proliferation is back with a vengeance, baby!

[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

We're gonna fucking blow ourselves off the face of the earth, all because a few dudes just couldn't stop trying to obtain power. How disgusting.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 days ago

Good, maybe it'll end quickly then, rather than this long, drawn out, slow cooking...

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Cartels will have nukes shortly after smaller countries with weak or bribable security forces have them.

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 24 points 6 days ago

As the POTUS, Trump gets to set the bar on the world stage for international cooperation in many parts of life.

Other leaders, world-wide, will follow his lead, either because they can finally get away with it, or in reaction to how he treats their nation.

We saw this to a small degree with Trump 1.0 when nobody expected him to win. Now the entire world has had 8 years to figure out what they are going to do.

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Long-term fate was sealed with this election.

Short-term profit year over year for the shareholders always wins.

[-] skysurfer@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

Sadly, a few protests now is nothing in comparison if Harris would have won. The Republican party already had preemptive lawsuits to challenge the election results before election day and the results would have been contended for months. There was a high likelihood of a repeat of Jan. 6th 2021 on Jan. 6th 2025 from right wing milita groups.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Americans would rather bully the entire world than participate in it apparently. We're stuck with this now. The Republican party is back from the dead.

[-] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 102 points 6 days ago

While I fully support these protests, they need to be planning for the responding violence from authorities. It's coming the day Trump takes office.

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 37 points 6 days ago

People protesting in Seattle or NYC are, rest assured, taking state sanctioned violence into account. SPD/NYPD are a great way to train a culture in how to mitigate absolute bastards.

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[-] echo@lemmings.world 74 points 6 days ago

Wonderful timing! Did you ever consider doing this a week or two ago?

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 24 points 6 days ago

If the people had rallied far more before the election, it could have convinced enough ignorant fence sitters. Now we have people reacting to damage already done when the next chance to fix it is two years away.

[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

It would have been worse. Fox News would paint them as anarchists and encourage violence. Nothing would change on the right

[-] vividspecter@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago

Yeah, it would have just been feeding their infinitely expandable persecution fetish. The same goes for the legal cases against Trump. It was the right thing to do, but it just meant that Trump supporters dug in their heels even more.

[-] btaf45@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

If the people had rallied far more before the election, it could have convinced enough ignorant fence sitters.

The exact same thing happened in 2016. Huge rallies a few days after Clinton lost. If those same street rallies had come a few days BEFORE the election, she probably would have won.

[-] echo@lemmings.world 7 points 6 days ago

Of course, there is the distinct possibility that the rallies were happening before the election. The billionaire owned media just didn't choose to show it until now.

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[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 days ago

To be fair, I imagine most of these people voted.

[-] Mereo@lemmy.ca 47 points 6 days ago

This is a good lesson to those who are shocked by the win but didn't vote.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 19 points 6 days ago

"Huh. I threw away my vote and now they're talking about implementing Project 2025 during Trump's revenge administration! Weird..."

[-] whelk@lemm.ee 15 points 5 days ago

I see all these comments roasting the protestors, but I'm just glad people are angry. It would have been great if the election went differently, but it didn't, and we are where we are. Support people getting mad with how things turned out. Stop acting like all these people did nothing until now. I voted, and I'm protesting. I'll happily welcome non voters in the protests too. Turn your frustration and anger against the people you oppose instead of willing allies.

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[-] portuga@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

Wasn’t the time to protest like before the election? Can’t figure the US line of reasoning

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 4 points 5 days ago

I think Trump's strategy was "I'm going to sound so crazy every Democrat will assume I'll lose and don't bother voting".

And it worked.

TWICE

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[-] Skates@feddit.nl 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

"Hate never made America great" ? What the fuck are you even talking about? Your hate of commies launched you to the moon and made you a nuclear superpower. Your hate of the religious freedom in Europe caused you to invade another continent and cause genocide upon its inhabitants. Your hate of black people sparked a civil war that almost destroyed you as a country.

Hate is what defines you. As a reminder of the hate you perpetuate, your majority chose hate of women and minorities instead of throwing a known criminal in jail. Trump is the US. Hate is the US.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 16 points 6 days ago

I get the feeling we need to be doing the work the Democrats refused to do: creating a political mandate. Protesting is part of creating that mandate, but one thing I would like to see is the inverse of the "ground game" l; where instead of going door to door to convince people of a solution, you get them involved in the decision process.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 days ago

creating a political mandate

My friend, we just created a political mandate. Unfortunately, it was for literal fascists.

Any type of "strategy" as it were is moot now.

[-] dellish@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

Yeah? Are more than 71 million people protesting? If so, where the fuck were you on Tuesday? And if not, well, I understand you don't like the election result but this isn't going to achieve anything.

[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

"No but see I withheld my vote for Kamala because I don't feel she earned it"

[-] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Being persnickety with people putting their lives out there in protest is such a DNC move. Bet you bitched about the college gaza protests. If your old enough you would of been bitching about civil rights and Vietnam war protests too.

[-] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 days ago

I'm shocked at all the election denialism I'm seeing. This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.

[-] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago

I want a way to see how my vote counted.

I don't trust the fact that 3rd party traitor supporters have had their hands on our voting machines.

[-] RinseDrizzle@midwest.social 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

MN but was able to verify mine was counted on a local gov website.

[-] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

Counted for whom?

[-] RinseDrizzle@midwest.social 2 points 5 days ago

You know my ass on that Harris/Walz with a fully stacked blue ticket. Them mouth breathers in the boondocks don't know shit about Lemmy. 😂

[-] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

Right, same here. But I want to see how my vote was actually counted.

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[-] nnullzz@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

It’s a shame people are falling for that trap. Especially after all the shit we all had to hear about it for the past 4 years.

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[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Liberté

[-] JoShmoe@ani.social 4 points 6 days ago

Here we go again. Still on track for the 2nd Civil War.

[-] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Yes! Finally!

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

couldve been louder a couple months ago

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Like in most wars, Americans have come too late again.

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