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[-] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 164 points 2 weeks ago

As a tall man who likes to walk at night, I have long understood that women alone at night do not wish to encounter me. So when I happen to find myself following a woman down the street, I will either slow down, cross the street, or stop and look at a sign or something for a minute to give her some space.

In a dangerous and shitty world, a person has to find subtle and quiet ways to express care, compassion, and solidarity. It costs me nothing to make a woman feel safer.

[-] Eranziel@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

This is the way, and good for you.

Purposefully making women afraid they're about to get assaulted is abhorrent.

[-] Hikermick@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

While working i am occasionally in parking garages which can be dark and creepy. If i see a woman walking alone I'll try to make some noise like pulling out my keys. People with bad intentions will be stealthy, hopefully they get that I'm not a threat

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[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 157 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Anon is a piece of shit even if this is just fantasy

[-] 13esq@lemmy.world 57 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Sometimes prophecies are self fullfilling, treat a man like the worst example of the gender he represents, through no fault of his own and you might find he behaves less than appropriately.

I'm not saying that excuses the behaviour, but if women looked at me and immediately thought "potential rapist/murderer" I can't say that wouldn't upset me and possibly cause me to act less than amicably.

I mean what the fuck am I supposed to do? Somehow talk the worst male scum out of their depraved behaviour, or somehow try to convince all women that "I'm one of the good ones"? That's never going to happen no matter how hard I try.

We all need to be realistic and keep things in perspective. It's not OK to treat people as the worst of the people they identify with, it's no better than the "all Muslims are terrorists" mentality.

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago

My gf does this constantly. She is afraid of every man on the street. If there is a homeless or god forbid mentally ill person on her path she’s basically terrified.

Yes, she does listen to true crime podcasts. Yes, we live in a relatively safe part of a relatively safe country.

[-] toxoplasma0gondii@feddit.org 30 points 2 weeks ago

Go ahead and aks her if she has ever been harrased or sexually coerced in her life. At what age and what happend. And then ask her if she has friends who have. Or how often she didn't think it was socially acceptable to say "no" or "fuck off".

This is not something just in our heads. We don't just freak out about nothing. Especially in a world were young white men are increasingly frustrated about the way the world "treats" them.

I have had enough guys try to follow me home or just obnoxiously trying to "be nice" while ignoring all the " I don't want to talk right nows" and "i don't need you to escort me home, reallys", thank you very much.

Its not about the danger of beeing raped or killed. Its about the fact that its uncomfortable enough as is even if nothing objectively bad happens.

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[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah obviously but it is no justification. I definitely understand how material conditions can influence behavior

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[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 14 points 2 weeks ago

Maam this is 4chan

[-] papalonian@lemmy.world 108 points 2 weeks ago

So everyone here is saying fuck anon and I agree, but I agree because they are aware of it and intentionally doing things on purpose to exacerbate the situation.

But like, if you're a physically larger dude (maybe even cursed with a hint of melanin), and you've got to walk behind a woman at 2am.. it's just a shitty situation for both people, where both of you feel like you have to do something you shouldn't have to do (women feeling the need to run, defend themselves, or cry for help, and men feeling the need to change their route, stand around and wait until she leaves, or do something awkward and potentially more scary like announce their presence).

I'm definitely not advocating for women to be less cautious on the streets at night or anything like that at all, it's an unfortunate reality that they need to stay vigilant and aware to remain safe. It just really sucks that the way it comes across a lot of the time does little to protect anyone from any actual harm, and just makes normal people feel like shit for making someone feel like they're about to get raped.

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 45 points 2 weeks ago

As a physically large man who used to work a job that meant he was walking home late at night in the city, just cross the road to overtake. If you're walking that much faster than the other person, you will overtake pretty soon.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

Shit, I cross the road to overtake because I'm a smoker and don't want to inconvenience non-smokers with my addiction. Never even crossed my mind that may make people feel safer.

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[-] Dayroom7485@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

If you’re a big guy and you find yourself walking behind a woman at 2am AND, unlike anon, you‘re not a complete sociopath, you have two options in a nutshell. One, you move your ass and overtake, walking fast. Two, you change the side of the road. Both minor inconveniences.

[-] elidoz@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 weeks ago

just not changing pace is good enough in my opinion, that makes it look like he was actually chasing her

if he takes the same road and she is scared it's more of a she problem since he's just going home

imo the solution is just not to do anything sketchy, and teach younger people what's right and wrong, so that the problem can get solved with a better society in the future

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[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 18 points 2 weeks ago

Just yell to her you're not going to rape her. Problem solved.

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[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Hear hear! As a bigger guy with a faster pace, I have yet to find a way that doesn’t make everyone uncomfortable while also making me frustrated as hell because I can’t walk at my own pace.

Even worse, I’m probably walking with my dog, who likes an even faster pace, and she’s a rescue who looks scary and isn’t yet well behaved

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[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 73 points 2 weeks ago

Amusing if fictional but if in real life, this is seriously messed up

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[-] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 61 points 2 weeks ago

It's all shits and giggles until anon ends up in a 'man vs bear spray' scenario

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[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 58 points 2 weeks ago
[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 13 points 2 weeks ago

Or tased and pepper sprayed, at the very least

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 53 points 2 weeks ago

Now its not only women who would prefer the bear. After reading this i also prefer the bear.

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[-] socialpankakemix@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 2 weeks ago
[-] A_Wild_Zeus_Chase@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago

Can the incels who posted and upvoted this please stop ruining gender relations for the rest of us?

[-] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 weeks ago

It's a fucking greentext my guy

[-] A_Wild_Zeus_Chase@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It could be on Sumerian clay tablets my dude, it would still be about threatening rape for amusement

[-] Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 weeks ago

Have you ever seen !linkedinlunatics@sh.itjust.works? This community is that (mostly) but for 4chan. Upvotes don't mean supporting this garbage.

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[-] wizzor@sopuli.xyz 31 points 2 weeks ago

Back in the day I lived in the outskirts of the city where buses would run rarely. Many times when I arrived home late a woman would also drop off. They mostly reacted in the same way as OP describes.

I tried to imagine having to be afraid like that all the time and it's horrifying. The planet is populated by animals larger and stronger than you who might, or might not behave violently without provocation.

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[-] obstbert@feddit.org 23 points 2 weeks ago

Anon is a terrible person

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 21 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] Yokozuna@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Anon is fake and gay never happened.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 weeks ago

gay happens every day, you're just not getting any

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[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago

I wonder if the lady would've preferred a bear

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago

Follow-up should be about becoming the manager of a McDonald's and realising that this small amount of authority over people allows you to make their lives miserable.

[-] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago

I'm a very tall wardrobe with a resting bitch face syndrom that is also nocturnal. I learned a long time ago to just slow down when behind women and never to speed up. Or just change sides or so.

It pisses me off to constantly being seen as a violent rape-ape instead of a person, but imagining being a woman (or whomever else is frightened by me) in such a situation makes my worries seem more irrelevant.

In a better society this would be totally unnecessary, but here we are.

[-] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not going to rape you. I'm a little boy!

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