Does anyone have a cure?
Yea we do!
Pretty neat huh.
People think it's a jokes but that what non fascism American will have to do if they ever want another election in their lifetime
Listening to the hosts of a lot of my podcasts talk about how “the next four years are going to be tough.”
…
Bro, you have children and LGBT friends, are you being serious?
The next rest of your life is going to be rough.
That was clever and dark as most of his works.
It's not the original line.
E: it's the suggested cure for insomnia
saw damn really?
Sorry ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
lol, all good, thanks tho
Yep, and Socialism is necessary to prevent it from cropping up again.
Took the words right out of my mouth
Is it rare? I doubt that.
Definitely not rare, more like malignant, aggressive, terminal..
But the cancer analogy does work, because you can't cure it with band aids (like elections), you have to cut the fucker out at its core, radiate the remaining tissue to make sure none is left behind (via education and a complete overhaul of how society functions, with zero tolerance for bigotry), and continue to get regular check ups to make sure it hasn't returned, and if it does, radiate the fucker again before it metastasises.
We did it to Germany, but it probably needs another dose of chemo at this point, like a disturbing amount of places around the world.
No one really did it to Germany at all, nor anywhere else, including the country Hitler got his inspiration from.
The truth is WWII wasn't fought over bigotry and hate and the fact that people were being exterminated on an industrial scale, it was fought so those in power could stay in power and maintain the status quo, and also make a handsome profit. War always is.
Fascism is capitalism in decay, we will never be rid of one, without abolishing the other.
Rare in that it doesn't happen that often here.
It's metastasized rather quickly, however.
It could be terminal if we don't get the right people to excise it quickly enough.
“Right people” might be how we got it. /rimshot
I think capitalism is the cancer. Fascism is just the symptom of late stage capitalism.
100%. Fascism is a defense mechanism for dying Capitalism. Dr. Michael Parenti helps explain fascism's causes, interests, and characteristics in the first chapter of Blackshirts and Reds.
Agreed
It's not that rare unfortunately. It's spread across more than half the globe.
The last time this happened we needed a world war to root it out. It's looking increasingly likely that we're gonna need another one.
The Nazis were copying the US practices towards blacks; was it really rooted out, or just some secondary tumours?
Germany lost, fascism won
""rare""
you mean common symptom of capitalism :p
The cure is Socialism. Fascism is Capitalism in decay, ergo to prevent fascism we need to prevent Capitalist decay, and the only way to do that is to move beyond Capitalism and into Socialism.
For any new Leftists, I created a Read Theory, Darn it! introduction to Marxism reading guide, complete with a section on how to conduct yourself as a Leftist. It also includes a section on fascism, what causes it, and how we can banish it forever, right in the beginning with Michael Parenti's Blackshirts and Reds.
Thank you for putting in this effort!
No problem, feel free to offer any input!
This isn’t meant to be some kind of “hurr durr Stalin” kind of rebuttal or anything like that, and I hope it doesn’t come across that way. I’m as dissatisfied with everything as you are. But I’m not well versed in socio-politico-economics, so I’m genuinely curious: what is the plan for avoiding what happened in the USSR with a socialist nation? What pitfalls did they fall into that spoiled the word “socialism” for everyone else?
That's an incredibly complex question, and if you aren't well-versed in economics, politics, sociology, etc then I promise you, you aren't going to be able to walk away satisfied from a Lemmy conversation. The best answer is that the USSR came with a ton of good, and a lot of difficulty in being the first Socialist state, including a great deal of bad, unfortunately. Additionally, there aren't really any states currently in the same conditions and predicaments with the same limited access to modern technology as 1917 Russia, so we can't make a 1 to 1 comparison even if we tried. The USSR was planned almost entirely by hand using good old pen and paper for its entire existence, and never fully embraced computers, which contributed to struggles as the economy got more complex, as an example.
I recommend you check out my reading list, and read the two books in section 1. Well, the essay and the book in section 1. Principles of Communism is very short and can help with terminology, and Blackshirts and Reds is a historical analysis of both fascism and Communism as they have existed, and their adversarial relationship.
Alternatively, I recommend the "Yellow Parenti" lecture in section 1 from the same author as Blackshirts, though I won't stop you from reading and listening to all 3. I invite you to read them with a critical eye and question whatever seems off.
I apologize if this is unsatisfactory for you, but analyzing AES properly takes a great deal of myth dispelling and contextualization in a world dominated by the US, which has material interests in slandering AES states at every single opportunity. That does not mean AES states are perfect, but that they are real, and come with real problems and real victories.
Hope that answers your question in a semi-satisfactory way, at least! You can also ask questions in the linked thread, which would selfishly be beneficial because common questions can be answered in one space that I plan on linking whenever it's relevant, and having readers capable of seeing questions answered in the comments I think would be a good thing for my list 😉
I really did put a lot of thought and effort into picking works that answer questions just like yours right off the bat, this is like iteration 5 or 6 of the same initial list, finally ready for release after a lot of feedback from comrades around the world, designed to be accessible as possible with the inclusion of audiobooks for every work (except 1 for now) and a focus on intersectionality, decolonialism, LGBTQ+ rights, history, and more.
You'll find that some of your questions are likely already answered there (among the jokes and jests from fellow comrades).
Trotsky's Permanent Revolution actually describes what has happened in the United States.
The few mega-rich will bend the national discourse with money to capitalist decay and avoid the dictatorship of the proletariat. The likes of Bezos and Musk fit that bill to a T.
That's a myth, it's actually quite common.
Rare?
Best not vote! That'll fix it.
Yes, exactly. It's best to just not have your voice heard. Don't vote now, and don't protest later.
If you think the leadership in the Democratic party currently isn't like 80-90% of the way there already, please wake up.
Thank you for being the prime example.
Voting is not even the bare minimum required to prevent fascism. Fascism is Capitalism in decay, you can't just vote Capitalism forever and somehow not end up at fascism.
Organize outside the electoral system.
This assumes that voting for managed fascism conducting genocide is going to solve the problem as opposed to chaotic fascism that will continue what the blue fascists started.
Seriously, it's time to quarantine the US and seriously purge Europe before it gets any worse
Cancers aren't contagious, which means this is a pox.
Unless you think of earth/humanity as one organism.
Are you sure It's not low information voters who spend most of their time politically deactivated, feel disenfranchised from the economic controls that rule their lives, and have poor media literacy?
For that diagnosis, that will be $28,865.89 and an additional $56.76 per day of none payment.
Laws do not apply to the terminally ill.
I've been mulling over getting some "I DID THAT!" stickers of an ass oh.. I mean Trump pointing with that text above his head for when he inevitably raises prices of everything.
I cannot emphasize this enough. Do NOT make it trump. His health will likely take him out before that.
Bring it on to point directly at 2 people: Musk and Vance.
We actually will see those two in 2028. Stop focusing on the distraction. All Trump is right now is a distraction.
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