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ah yes, windows defender
(lemmy.sdf.org)
You forgot trying to uninstall edge
Thatβs because your average Windows user is only going to download a .exe. Only power-users (and idiots/daredevils) are going to do anything remotely close to the other things, and they would be well aware of what they are doing.
Do you actually think your average windows user knows what any of the other things mean? Nope.
I'm pretty sure you get warnings trying to delete system32.
Edit: And I mean beyond the standard UAC pop-up.
Meanwhile MS EXCEL: This file with random macros from a shady website could gain admin rights, install 3500 viruses, lock you out, join a botnet, put a million dollar ransom on your PC all within the first minute after opening without you even noticing. Please click ok if you are fine with that.
Windows defender works, and it works really well. I haven't had a virus or used an anti virus (most of which feel like viruses themselves with how intrusive and annoying they have become) in like two decades.
In before yadda yadda so glad linux yadda yadda
Are you crazy? An exe could corrupt the registry, delete system32, format C:, or delete the MBR! They're dangerous!
Whoever made this is evil. I tried to blow that stupid dot of paint in the middle off my screen
wouldn't it be "a .exe" because you pronounce the '.' as ".dot"
.dot would be pronounced "dot dot"
that's fine, I wasn't planning on using that 20% of my CPU cycles anyway. And take all the RAM you need on the way out, I was actually saving it for you. thank you sir windows
Defender was never designed to help directly against any of these except the last one.
All of those things require admin rights, which is an explicit acceptance that you are now working with things that could fuck your shit up. Modern Windows, unless you disable UAC, asks you to confirm you're sure you want to use admin rights before you have the opportunity to break any of the shit you claim it's chill about.
Running an exe doesn't require admin rights, hence the extra warnings. Plus a malicious exe could do all that shit without asking for admin first through a privilege escalation exploit.
I swear, people find more uninformed shit to complain about with Windows every day.
Windows only pretends to let you be the administrator, until Microsoft wants to do something shitty to you.
Linux actually makes you the administrator, so any screw ups are on you.
User installs Chrome.
And people say Linux lets the user shoot himself.
Tbf, you could use portable / user installs (if everyone would actually do their apps right), you can (now) use a package manager and you can (sometimes...) get an official, verified version of an app through the store and even if not, installers are (usually.....) signed these days (although criminals do apparently get signatures too........)... And then this all falls apart, because you need a random driver from a random website. Security ππ
It's not about security. Not anymore, anyway. Maybe when Authenticode was first added to windows. Now they just want to scare users into getting everything through their store, because they're perennially jealous of the shit Apple can get away with.
Ah yes, chasing the huge success of the Mac app store
More thinking of the ios app store in this case. But they're also ripping off the osx dock, IMO. :P
they're perennially jealous of the shit Apple can get away with.
π
this is why ill never use anything past win7 and for newer systems just use linux instead (yes im actually moving on from windows)
7 was the last good one :(
So once again we have someone who doesn't actually use (modern) Windows making false statements about how it functions, upvoted to the moon because Microsoft bad. They are, but this is embarassing.
Never change lemmy.
ive actuakly used win10 alot tho. at school. the pcs run that (and i often have to do the troubleshooting because the rest of the class doesnt know shit abt pcs)
not saying i knw a lot, but at least i know something, unlike everyone else my age (im 14, born in the age of locked down devices trying to get you to bc tech illiterate, of the artificial stupidity hype and of tiktok cringe. instead i used things like dos, older windows versions and linux (still use mobile phones for like calls and stuff tho) and never (intentionally) went to the cringe and ai stuff either (even though its still shoved up my face whether i like it or not))
edit: and all nested parens are matched too :)
My guy, I'm a grown ass adult that does sysadmin work for a living in a full Windows/Microsoft environment. Just stop. You're wrong about how Windows works.
Your meme is simply not how Windows works, unless you intentionally choose to disable the security feature of UAC while leaving Windows Defender on. At that point you've accepted the risk that you could do something to break your shit.
You turned off warnings for all the shit you say Windows sleeps through, but left Windows Defender on which keeps the exe warnings. The only way to get Windows to work the way in this meme is if you configure it in this non-standard way.
Your willingness to poke around with computers will serve you well, especially in the modern age as people are less willing to do that, but don't assume you know everything just because you know more than the people around you day to day.
I've not booted into windows for a few weeks now. It's been pretty smooth sailing, one horrifically unoptimised game aside.
I poked around in the registry a bit too much awhile ago and managed to delete my only user. Oops! Completely bricked my install, couldn't even unfuck it with safe mode shenanigans. Had enough space to clone my entire drive so I just lost a couple days of time fiddling with it, only a couple hours actually copying my shit back and forth.
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