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[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 114 points 11 months ago

"Well I read in a book that I was there. I can't actually remember more than a few hundred years back."

Ashildr from Doctor Who was brilliant.

[-] kamenlady@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago

I'm wondering now, how our little brains would adapt to living like for thousands of years. Would we really start forgetting things that are waaaay back?

[-] De_Narm@lemmy.world 83 points 11 months ago

I've already forgotten most of my childhood and I'm only around 30. So I'd assume, yes.

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[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

You would forget most everything. Even big events would become fuzzy. Do you remember what you had for lunch on this date when you were 5?

[-] Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

It's Friday. Rectangle pizza

[-] Techranger@infosec.pub 8 points 11 months ago

A breadtangle of pizza

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Is that just regular pizza with rectangles on it?

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[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 9 points 11 months ago
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[-] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Yes and no, probably. You will remember important bits and will reconstruct/imagine other things just like you do now. Even with our short lifes not all the things you "remember" actually happened.

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[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

I SEEN IT!!

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[-] boydster@sh.itjust.works 100 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Small nerd gripe. Maia is the singular form of Maiar. "I am a Maia," or "I am one of the Maiar" get you there

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 138 points 11 months ago
[-] Comrade_Spood@lemmy.dbzer0.com 135 points 11 months ago
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[-] goldteeth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 93 points 11 months ago

something-something Núma Númenor

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[-] Senseless@feddit.org 35 points 11 months ago

God, I love this community.

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[-] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 90 points 11 months ago

Doesn't matter. While that amazon shitshow tells a different story, Gandalf (as Radagast and Saruman) only arrived in the third age, long after the War of the Last Alliance. Gandalf might be infinitely older than Elrond yet wasn't there.

[-] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 months ago

I thought the way it was worded, it was still technically the second age?

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[-] Godric@lemmy.world 78 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Hey Gandalf, fuck off. Were you literally there 3,000 years ago? Or are you just going "You're younger than me, so you know fuckall"?

Fuckin boomer

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[-] Assman@sh.itjust.works 43 points 11 months ago

Am I wrong or do the wizards not remember their lives before they were sent to middle earth?

[-] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

I don't think the original books ever told anything about it.

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 46 points 11 months ago

Iirc the books themselves didn't say, but Tolkien's letters say something to the effect of the Istari only having vague memories of their time as Maia, with the exception of things that they were explicitly meant to remember, e.g. Olórin's memories of being sent back after his physical death while fighting Durin's Bane.

They know that they are, in our parlance, embodied angels or minor gods, but they don't remember a ton of where they came from

[-] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Do the balrogs have the same memory issues?

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That's a very good question, and one that I don't know the answer to. I would guess no, as the point of the Istari losing their memories was to make them more like the people they were sent to save; it's not something about being embodied that made them lose their bodyless memories, it was part of their mission. The balrogs had no such mission

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[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 40 points 11 months ago

I mean, sure he was alive. But he wasn't physically there.

[-] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

Is Middle-earth juxtaposed between Top-earth and Bottom-earth or Right-earth and Left-earth?

[-] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Inner earth and outer earth.

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[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 12 points 11 months ago

The serious answer is it's juxtaposed with East and West. West being the Undying Lands of Valinor, and East being the much less well-explored Land of the Sun.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

Christian Earth: 6000 years old

Middle Earth: 30,000 years old

Middle Earth wins again

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[-] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 17 points 11 months ago

I didn't understand this so I looked it up.

https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Maiar

Pretty cool.

[-] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So there were five godlike beings sent to fight Sauron. Only one of them did his job.

I need to reword it.

You are the big cool powerful god. One of your servants, a minor much less powerful god does bad things to the world. So you send five your other servants just as powerful as the bad one to deal with him.

A lot of time passes. Three of those spend their time chilling. One joins the bad one. The last one turns out too weak. Who solves the problem? Four hobbits.

You really should reconsider your politics after that.

[-] root_beer@midwest.social 15 points 11 months ago

Isn’t much of the power of the Maiar in diplomacy and setting events in motion? Gandalf was as much of an interloper and manipulator as he was anything else, and his hiring Bilbo as a thief was the penultimate piece of his mission, as inadvertent as I’m not entirely sure it was. Right? No, really, I’m kinda asking, I don’t know for sure.

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[-] boydster@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Wait till you learn about Melkor! He's a Vala, or one of the Valar, which is a higher order than the Maiar, and was basically super-Sauron from the before times

[-] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

And he was scared of Ungoliant, and we don't know what she is, besides nasty, and hungry, and shaped like a huge spider (well, spiders are shaped like her, probably).

(He also got his foot almost cut off by an elf in single combat and walked with a limp ever after — well, at least until he got his hands and feet cut off by the rest of the Valar, I suppose —, but elves were mighty back then.)

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