YouTube Premium is now showing ads : assholedesign

[-] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 68 points 2 weeks ago

There is a lower price tier of Youtube premium being tested in Europe right now that has ads, but still gives offline viewing and youtube music. This is what that is for. People who are seeing ads know exactly why they are seeing ads; because they signed up for a plan with ads. The regular plan at the regular price is still ad free.

[-] Monomate@lemm.ee 27 points 2 weeks ago

I think you're mistaken about what this lower price tier offers. It is still ad-free, except for Youtube Music which is ad-supported. If a regular YouTube video uses a song that belongs to the YouTube Music catalog, it will have ads as normal. Also, this tier doesn't offer background playback (with the phone screen turned off).

[-] MimicJar@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/17/24272930/youtube-cheaper-premium-lite-subscription-limited-ads

has more info and explains, ads are expected.

It's stupid to pay and still get ads, but that is how it's presented.

[-] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world -3 points 2 weeks ago

You are correct, maybe? I say maybe because I see now the original info that I was reading was speculation from last month, however, new information is sparse and every site seems to contradict the others. Honestly, now I don't know what they are doing with it. Regardless, it is a separate tier of a plan, so those that are seeing ads signed up for a plan that includes ads in some form or another. It's not like Google just started sneaking ads into the full premium tier without warning, which what this post and the others like it that I've seen are rage baiting for.

[-] tja@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

So it seems they are only expecting ads in YouTube music, so I understand when they are then confused to see ads in their YouTube videos

[-] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

It possibly highlights a problem that I've always had with youtube music. Anyone can label their video as "music" and it will show up in youtube music. The biggest offender are rip off artists that name themselves after existing bands and then upload "new" tracks designed to get people to give their fake band the views that the real band is getting. Then, presumably, they take their ad revenue and peace out. It bothers me, because I'll look up an artist and there will be some crazy ass Middle Eastern band putting out new "Black Sabbath" songs, polluting the artist page with bullshit. It's even worse when one of the tracks shows up in a radio station. Google really needs to separate music and video.

[-] tja@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago

Oh that's how it works? Good to know! 🤔

[-] whaleross@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

The literal opposite of what people¹ want then. Give me back the €5 no ads, no yt music and no off app viewing and I will consider enabling the app and remove the YouTube adblockers in my browser.

¹ People as in me. I am at least one people.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 24 points 2 weeks ago

Bruh, why pay for Youtube in the first place? Fuck them

[-] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 weeks ago

If my youtube premium gets ads its back to ad block.

[-] Zier@fedia.io 19 points 2 weeks ago

Google is an advertising company, never expect anything better than that.

[-] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago

The only reason that I (and I suspect many many other people) pay for it is because of the value proposition of not having ads on Youtube + Youtube Music for slightly more than Spotify. They better be careful about their subscriptions because their service is also available for free. If I feel like im being ripped off, instead of them getting 12$ a month they will get 0$ and I will still get to use the service. It's different from Netflix in that in their case there is no free tier to go back to.

[-] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago

Free tier for YouTube = no ads with unblock origin. Free tier for Netflix = just pirate the movies and shows. There's probably a way to block ads in Spotify too idk

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Ublock origin also works to stop ads in the Spotify web player.

[-] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 3 points 1 week ago

Although it's the only place I've seen that leaves a chunk of silence while the ad plays.

[-] jared@mander.xyz 12 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck YouTube!

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

This is apparently from an ad-supported tier being trialled in EU and not them sneaking ads into an ad free tier. Read comments below for more context.

This thread was reported for being misleading but I'm going to leave it up for the context.

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 weeks ago

When I had Premium for the whole family, they were also showing ads AND still using trackers.

I emailed Google support about it, and they said it was a "bug". I cancelled soon after.

[-] TokenEffort@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago

Oh hell no, not after they started raising prices in other countries. I don't want to pirate again.

[-] FireWire400@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago

All you have to do is install Ublock...

[-] krimson@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I'm amazed it still works that well to be honest. Have it on Firefox on my phone as well 👌🏼

[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Who tf pirates YouTube

[-] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 2 weeks ago

Why tf not. Videos get deleted at times. Or for offline watching. Lots of reasons really.

[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Eh fair. I honestly hadn't even considered downloading from the website cuz that just doesn't feel like piracy to me. I was picturing somebody torrenting Mr beast

[-] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Ah yeah, I get what you mean. But basically anything where people cannot directly download a video but have to resort to some additional software to download the video, that's basically piracy.

Now some people won't know about yt-dlp and the sorts, so they maybe even do go for torrents, again, why not? If you are such a fan of Mr. Beast (no judgement here) and that dude has surely hundreds if not thousands of videos by now, a torrent could include all of a series of his videos that you are interested in. So it is actually then more convenient to torrent them instead of downloading them one by one.

Tldr different people have different interests and usecases

[-] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's not piracy to download YouTube videos. You already do that when you watch the video on your device.

[-] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

So why does the official site not allow direct downloads? Why do we need projects like yt-dlp to download? Why is YouTube constantly changing so that yt-dlp and others need to keep up to keep being able to download?

Edit: and with that explanation nothing would be piracy?

[-] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago

Official site allows direct downloads, the option is just hidden from less savvy users. What you're arguing is basically the "you don't access the content as google means to, so it's piracy" shit that's used to scare people away from adblockers too

I think piracy starts from where you start distributing restricted content to other people, to allow them to also enjoy that content. That's also very based

[-] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago

You wouldn't steal a youtube

[-] TokenEffort@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago

I used to with vanced because I wanted background play. Originally I pirated because I didn't agree with PAYING for a feature that is free on desktop and was free on mobile until Google deliberately disabled it. Then Vanced stopped working because, you know, and revanced just didn't work for me. Revanced worked for boost for reddit after, well, you know, but not YouTube. So I actually eventually I started paying to have no ads and it turns out the other features like the not-really-sponsorblock and queuing are pretty useful. And I don't use Netflix or the others (I don't watch TV) so being a YouTube power user justified paying. I don't mind paying. But if they do show ads (I read the context) on standard premium I'm not paying.

[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

I paid.

Downvoted

-Lemmy

[-] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I'm always so appalled and offended when I go on YouTube and there's a 60 and even 90 second and. Wtf year so you think this is YouTube? I'm not watching 60 seconds of ass. Funny thing is if I keep pressing back and play, after 2 or 3 times it goes down to a 5 second ad, so I at least know how to bypass those long ones

[-] Pfeffy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I have grandfathered in YouTube premium from like 10 years ago because of a business cell phone promotion deal. I have not seen a single ad yet.

[-] bokherif@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

This is something new they’re testing primarily in EU. There are plans to separate the premium into tiers and one tier will have ads. Even in the US, there are currently ads in your home feed such as product placement videos. When I contacted support about this, they told me they knew they were ads, it’s just that it does not interfere with watching videos. Disgusting fucking company.

[-] Rixonomic@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Been using NewPipe for years. What are ads?

[-] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

That app stopped working on me like 2 months back and never worked again so I deleted it

[-] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago

Very weird, I am using it daily and it works just fine. Maybe you're using an older version? Rather than using F-Droid's repo, I use NewPipe's own.

[-] disconnectikacio@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Didnt noticed it with smarttube https://smarttubeapp.github.io/ or https://github.com/polymorphicshade/Tubular ;)

[-] StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

I love SmartTube but the vast majority of the time I find content doesnt work anymore and just says "Applying the fix..." For 10 mins.

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago

I guess it's not premium enough.

It reminds me of Unlimited data mobile services in which the data is not turned off or surcharged but throttled to a crawl after a limited time. We've not since been able to get a straight answer from any of the major telecom providers.

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[-] whithom@discuss.online 1 points 2 weeks ago

Wow, they really downsized the Barbie… same price?

[-] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 1 points 2 weeks ago

Some of them may be hardware related - any time I sign in to one of my TCL TV's with a Premium account, the first result in any search is always one marked Sponsored. It's gash, but it doesn't happen on any other of my devices than that TCL TV which makes me think it's some sort of vendor problem.

Either way, YouTube/Google/Alphabet/whoever won't give a fuck so if it's that bad, then vote with your wallet.

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