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submitted 1 month ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Summary

Steve Lee Hayes, a 65-year-old American tourist, was arrested in Tokyo for allegedly carving family members’ names into a wooden Torii gate at the Meiji Shrine.

Surveillance footage led police to his hotel, where he was detained.

Hayes admitted to the act, which could result in up to three years in prison or a fine of 300,000 yen ($1,900).

The Meiji Shrine, a significant Shinto site, was built in 1920 to honor Emperor Meiji and Empress Shoken. The incident occurs amid a surge in international tourism to Japan this year.

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[-] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

He’s cooked.

For the unaware, Japan has like a 99.9% conviction rate after arrests, because they basically don’t arrest unless they’re absolutely 100% positive that they can secure a conviction. The suspect also has no right to an attorney, and police abuse is common; Even if you’re innocent, they’ll just keep you in an interrogation room without any food or water for 72 hours until you “confess”. They’ll literally just rotate cops into the interrogation room, without giving you a break for food or sleep.

And Japanese prisons are some of the strictest. You’re basically expected to remain silent, and every moment of your time is accounted for. You get like 20 minutes to eat each meal (in your cell) and then like 30 minutes of “recreational” time outside, where you’re expected to kneel in place in an empty courtyard. Moving to and from your cell is akin to old elementary schools where everyone would have to line up single file and silently walk from one place to the next while following the teacher. And that’s pretty much your daily routine for the entire time you’re in. You sit in your cell, slam down what little food you get, silently walk to the courtyard, silently kneel for 30 minutes, silently walk back to your cell, and slam down dinner before bedtime. Any deviation is dealt with swiftly and violently by the guards.

Japan has a very skewed idea of criminal justice, because the prevailing attitude is that if you’re in prison, you must have done something to deserve it. It’s sort of a cyclical problem, where their insanely high conviction rate means that the public already assumes suspects are guilty before they have even been convicted.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago

"Guilty unless proven innocent" is literally the law in Japan

the Phoenix Wright series was literally made as a scathing critique of the Japanese Legal System, luckily the absurdity appeals to the West even if the commentary doesn't.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Thanks for telling the truth, Alot of media like to show japan as a good country,like they wanna show certain countries as bad and good(I already knew some of the stuff but not everything mentione).

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Well, it's kind of an open secret that you're not allowed to say anything bad about any non-white majority country that isn't China or North Korea on American Television.

Not saying that's a bad thing, in fact before that little "rule" was in place we got shit like "Tokyo Jokey-o" so I full understand the bias in favor of only focusing on the positives.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Ohh they got a rule for it, that would make sense.

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[-] indomara@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Hmm, I happened across this video last week of a womens prison, and it doesn't seem quite so grim...

https://youtu.be/p8paAewtl0c

I also saw another video in a mens prison a while ago that showed them cooking all the meals, and it looked strict, but not so bad as you describe.

Of course these videos are propaganda...

Still, I would take a Japanese prison before an American one.

[-] x4740N@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

I'm really hoping this does change in Japan once the boomers fall out of power because younger Japanese people are also learning about the world online

[-] Twitches@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago

Prison would be most appropriate.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

The fine sure seems low for defacing an important religious shrine.

[-] Dagnet@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not sure that shrine in particular but I do think torii gates in some shrines are replaced somewhat often. At Inari they had business names behind them which I assume are the 'sponsors' of that torii, probably they pay to have the gate fixed and I imagine that brings luck to that business. In short, he might have been lucky to deface the least critical part of the shrine.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

That's good at least. I'd hate to think this was a century old (or whatever) torii he defaced.

[-] Dagnet@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

oh, Im just guessing here though (from what I saw when visiting), hopefully that is the case

[-] boatswain@infosec.pub 3 points 1 month ago

My understanding is that the business names are there because Inari is a kami associated with merchants and businesspeople. They donate a gate, slap the company name on it, and Inari provides.

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[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 12 points 1 month ago

Put that fuckin Boomer in prison for 3 years.

[-] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Bordering on Gen X but anyone this disrespectful is still a boomer. They need to jail him. A fine is too easy.

[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Genx is 1965 – 1980.

At 65, he's 6 years too old to be Gen X.

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[-] LuckyPierre@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago

What an arsehole.

[-] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 month ago
[-] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Looks like the Temu version of Bannon.

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Re-open Robot Restaurant and force him to sit there watching it 24/7 for 3 years.

[-] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Asshole should have his passport revoked on top of being jailed.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

He likely was, it's very easy to lose your passport and be thrown to the wolves when you misbehave in another country, especially in Japan and South Korea. They do not fuck around.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh. I thought maybe he ate a banana on an offering plate or something culturally ambiguous

He fucking carved his name into wood? That's never OK anywhere

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[-] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Why people want to carve names on stuff... It's the same people who write their names on bathroom doors

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

No idea but it’s been going on for millennia

[-] A_Filthy_Weeaboo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Like how dumb do you have to be?

... Checks timeline. Oh thats the norm...

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

As he should be, what an absolute moron.

[-] villainy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I could have guessed he was over 60 because he wasn't live streaming the whole thing. Just an old school asshole, not an influencer.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

All that really proves is that people don't need YouTube to do things for attention.

[-] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Americans being dumb cunts. What a surprise.

[-] Tug@kbin.earth 7 points 1 month ago

Like our election didn't give it away?

[-] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

The rest of the world has known this for years.

[-] Kayday@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

So have we.

[-] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That’s a slap on the wrist if they only impose the fine. That should be a five year jail sentence at least.

You cannot act like a dick like this in other countries. Defacing a religious site no less.

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[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

what a stupid fuck

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

America: making Japan worse since 1853 (with a brief pause in the mid-20th century while they did it to themselves).

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Sounds like a great idea, maybe he should twerk in front of those South Korean "Woman of Comfort" statues next. /s

[-] x4740N@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Good, americans act like this and they get the consequences they deserve

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