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submitted 1 month ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

Summary

James Howells lost 8,000 Bitcoins worth over £500 million when he accidentally threw away a hard drive containing his private key.

He has been trying to retrieve the hard drive from a Newport landfill for over a decade, but the council has refused to allow him access.

Howells is now suing the council for £495 million in damages.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 42 points 1 month ago

It's been over 10 years. Even if he found it, what is the likelihood any data could still be retrieved from a hard drive that's been buried in landfill for that long?

[-] TheMinions@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

Probably why he is suing for damages now instead of access.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago

Pretty good actually. But the odds of finding it are basically nil. A needle in a haystack would actually be easier.

[-] Red_October@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

He just needs to drag an incredibly powerful magnet through the landfill and sort through the metal that sticks to it. Piece of cake.

[-] mierdabird@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 1 month ago

Lol I think that would also wipe the HDD

[-] Red_October@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's the joke.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 month ago

With headlines like this, it's always important to keep in mind that bitcoin is such a thinly traded (and largely artificial) market that actually trying to sell 8,000 Btc for real dollars/pounds would instantly and catastrophically crash the price.

[-] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

I agree with everything you said but 8000 bitcoin won't move the price much. We've seen management firms buying hundreds of millions worth of bitcoins

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Different dynamics. Buys require sellers, of which there are a fair amount (though few enough still that large purchases absolutely do shift the price significantly; we've seen multiple instances of Tether bringing the price up by 20% or more for the cost of billion newly minted USDT). Sells require buyers, which are in very short supply.

[-] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Got it thank you for the explanation

[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Yes and no.

The ETF changed the dynamics of BTC a little.

Now there's an introductory price for Bitcoin once it hit the stock market, and there's interest and reason for holders to not want it to go lower than that price. $55k thereabouts is when the ETF began.

Also, people are using Bitcoin like an index fund. They get paid, they invest. Every paycheck.

It's an odd thing to watch. I don't see another huge crash, but I don't see miracles, either. BTC has no use as a fast method of payment. Store-of-value is all it has.

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

He can't really prove it even exists.

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago
[-] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Functionally, it doesn't, and it's only a function to begin with.

[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, the only way to prove it's his is with that key. That's kind of the point of crypto in the first place.

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Imagine if he gave up the key to prove it only for someone else to already have found the HDD and uses the key.

[-] banghida@lemm.ee 18 points 1 month ago

Imagine what focusing on this does to your life

[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

My ex wife’s mother threw out a box of my stuff with a thumb drive containing about 300 bitcoin.

At the time it was only a couple hundred bucks I was out.

I chuckle at her burning in hell from time to time

[-] SparrowRanjitScaur@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

You would have sold the Bitcoin long before it was as valuable as it is today like almost everyone that's had Bitcoin over the years.

[-] ALiteralCabbage@feddit.uk 16 points 1 month ago

"Accidentally threw it away" really sounds more like "threw it away, didn't have a backup, he now regrets throwing it away".

Dread to think what his solicitor is making by allowing this delusion to continue (unless he's representing himself in which case...fair enough I suppose). I've been reading about this man for years it seems like.

[-] Infernal_pizza@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

I’ve heard about this guy before but I didn’t realise it was already worth so much at the time he lost it. I do feel sorry for him as it must suck to know you lost that much money from a simple mistake

[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"alright, here's a shovel, get to it."

James was then suddenly aware of how big a landfill really was.

"No, you can't use a bobcat."

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

They're not letting him do it even with a shovel. It's a pointless endeavour that will only create disruptions at the dump, risk his life and probably public safety.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 9 points 1 month ago

reverse money printer go rbbbbbbbbbb

[-] Harrk@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I pity the guy somewhat. It would be absolute gut wrenching knowing you’ve lost a life changing amount of money. But this reeks of desperation and taking out your anger on somebody else for your own mistake. Now he’s suing the council after failing to bribe them with something that may or may not be recoverable. And if successful, lines his own pockets at the expense of his community’s.

Accept the expensive life lesson for what it is and move on… It sucks but it’s your own flaming fault and nobody owes you a thing.

[-] Fleur_@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Story like this could've got him free pints from strangers in pubs till he dies if he acted with more 'grace'

[-] Steak@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

It's the thought that he could have owned the whole town and all the pubs and the next 3 towns over as well that keeps him from realizing that.

Idk if he will ever let it go at this point. I feel like I would have mostly given up after a few years and then after 5+ years it's just another good story. I don't feel bad about the time I almost won the lottery. Like I bought the ticket and scratched it and everything. I didn't win but I was really close. Doesn't keep me up at night.

[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Least delusional crypto bro

[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Something to note is the level of environmental damage attempting to recover this could cause. It’s not worth a “chance” for causing that damage.

[-] random_character_a@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

In Finland we have this saying "voiko vitutukseen kuolla?"

[-] Toes@ani.social 3 points 1 month ago

I wouldn't be surprised if that box didn't even make it to the dump. That kinda thing often ends up in the back of someone's truck until shift is over

[-] Yodan@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago
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