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Leak: Valve is making a Steam Controller 2 and a ‘Roy’ for its Deckard (www.theverge.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by ampersandrew@lemmy.world to c/games@lemmy.world

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The leak comes as the devices are prepared for mass production, so these are coming soon.

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[-] Dremor@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

~~If I strictly apply rule 1, this should be removed. But at the same time, after talking with OP via PM, it is true that it is still kinda related to games.~~

~~For now I'm gonna keep it, but an update to the rules is needed, to better define and explain them.~~

Edit : After a night of sleep I have to admit I was mistaken here.

Still, I'll talk with the other mods about better defining the rules, I feel like it is needed.

[-] zecg@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

"Still kinda related"

Please, Lord, let me never become a moderator, keep my reasoning intact.

[-] Dremor@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Moderating isn't as easy as it seem from the outside, and sometimes you can make mistakes, especially when tired. 😅

[-] zecg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I know and don't mind the jokes, you folks are doing a good job on communities that I follow. I started "teachers" and "education" subreddits a lifetime ago with a free-speech-absolutist mindset and quickly realized that they become a cesspool without someone grinding through reports 24/7.

[-] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 12 points 1 week ago

Video game company that also owns the biggest video game buying platform in the world makes a new video game controller to play video games with

Mod: Nah, it’s hardly related to video games, the rules have to be updated

[-] Dremor@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Yup, in retrospect my brain kinda betrayed me here.

The update I'd like to see here is to explicitly allow gaming hardware related topic in rule 1, to avoid having an overworked mod go on a moderation spree.

[-] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 4 points 1 week ago

This isn’t a great answer…

This is the best one

[-] MimicJar@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

As a user this is content I would expect to see in this community and if the rules need clarification they should include posts like this.

Reading the notes in https://lemmy.world/post/2536430 (linked in the sidebar),

This community is focused on games, of all kinds. Any news item or discussion should be related to gaming in some way.

This post certainly relates to gaming, which to me means as currently worded fits rule #1.

[-] Dremor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Indeed it is. That was my mistake.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

I'm a stickler for content appropriateness, but even I can see how a game company's gaming console is related to gaming.

[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

What is MP in this context?

[-] brrt@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

He probably meant PM which stands for private message.

[-] Dremor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

indeed. I was tired and used the French equivalent ("Message Privé", thus MP). I should avoid moderating when tired next time

[-] silverchase@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

Hell yeah, Steam Controller

[-] DualPad@lemmy.one 12 points 1 week ago

Some functionality that keeps me using the Steam Controller has been touchpads for movement, quick gadget swapping with touchpads, quick 180s/gyro activation with touchpads.

I use it to play games like Doom Eternal, Left 4 Dead 2, Spin Rhythm XD, The Finals, etc.

Sadly I don't find myself doing the same on the Steam Deck opting for the joysticks instead, since I don't find the placement, smaller size, square versus circle, and flat surface versus concave offering the type of consistency that I use the touchpads for on the Steam Controller. It feels more a touchpad appropriate for slow paced games or just desktop navigation than optimal for the way I use the touchpads on the Steam Controller. And I don't see Valve delivering on the touchpad end that I would like with the next Steam Controller with all the inputs it would be fitting in.

Not an issue for most players who will be using joysticks as their primary, but sucks for Steam Controller dual touchpad users who've been waiting years hoping for a Steam Controller with updated gyro, better bumpers, and 2 more back buttons.

[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Personally I've never felt compelled to use the left touchpad, and I've never found a problem worth solving that the left pad would solve.

[-] DualPad@lemmy.one 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I used left touchpad as a touch menu when I was using the left joystick. After moving to the left touchpad I prefer it over joystick due to being able to rely on a sprint hold mapping it on the outer edge without accidentally triggering it like I would on the joystick. And I've come to love mapping stuff like crouch, slide, or dash to it too so combining movement actions to touchpad clicks. Frees me to use back buttons for other stuff and further reduce my need to lift my thumbs away from movement and camera controls.

That's my experience as left joystick and left touchpad user.

[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

🤞

[-] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago

Steam Deck with no screen. It's actually really simple, and should have been done ages ago.

[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Honestly, I think the Steam Deck has worse ergonomics than that last Steam Controller, but at least it has a d-pad and a second analog stick so that there's always a way to play a game with no configuration.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Wrong angle to the grips on the deck, wanna get my hands on an Ally to compare and possibly replace mine with that

[-] specialseaweed@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Yes please. Right on.

[-] Eiri@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Assuming it's just like a Steam Deck without the screen, how would that compare to popular controllers like consoles first-party ones or 8bitdo's offerings?

[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Track pads and gyros are major features of the first Steam Controller that were brought forward to the Deck, and they can be game-changing for certain genres that have typically never controlled well on traditional controllers.

[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

How is durability on the original one?

I'm sick of all my controllers getting joystick drift and needing replacement every few years.

[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

It's lightweight, which makes it feel cheap, but it's actually quite durable. Then again, I seemingly experience drift way under the rate that the internet would have me believe that I should.

[-] bcgm3@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I've got three, ranging between 8 and nearly 10 years old, with the oldest one seeing exponentially more use than the others, and they all still work flawlessly. I tend to put hundreds of hours into a handful of games, but I don't use them every day, if that helps quantity my usage a bit.

[-] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

I still have my original one from however long ago it was when they came out (10 years or so maybe?) and it's still working perfectly well. It's outlasted pretty much all my other controllers, except for the red PS4 controller which mysteriously refuses to die.