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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by countrypunk@slrpnk.net to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

I'm impressed at how obvious of a lie this is and how hard they're trying to do mental gymnastics to justify their argument.

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[-] beliquititious@lemmy.blahaj.zone 63 points 1 year ago

To be fair they're not actually lying, they are misrepresenting the truth. Facebook actually doesn't sell your data to third parties because they lease temporary access to it instead. Selling the data would mean they couldn't recapitalize it with the same customers.

Meta's customers couldn't use it to skip doing their own market research and need to already know who they want to advertise to before they buy ads with Facebook. (It does provide insights and analytics about demographics during a campaign as well)

[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 49 points 1 year ago
[-] countrypunk@slrpnk.net 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My apologies. I will update it to have an accessible version.

Edit: accessible transcription has been added

[-] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 9 points 1 year ago
[-] countrypunk@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 year ago

I'm using the voyager client on android. There's an option when you make/edit a post to add an accessible caption.

[-] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 6 points 1 year ago

I use Voyager too. I'll take a look for that setting. Thanks

[-] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

Essentially they claim they don’t sell data. They say instead they process it in house and just have advertisers indicate a certain desired profile and then yhey show the ads, without transferring info

[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 year ago

Because everybody's totally going to believe that. LOL.

[-] smac@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

Selling it would be bad business. By just offering ad targeting to their customers, the customers keep coming back. Once they sell it the customer doesn't need them anymore. (used to work in an advertising-based internet business. This is how it's done.)

[-] countrypunk@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

If that's true, sure. Then they'd not be selling data but profiting off it.

[-] vardogor@mander.xyz -2 points 1 year ago

bro, just feel the letters.

[-] JeezNutz@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Blind people can't feel you idiot

[-] jjlinux@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago
[-] vardogor@mander.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

lol, what? thought they'd find it funny.

[-] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 1 year ago

they don't sell your data. advertisers just pick out the target audience and meta places the ads for them. This is the way google and meta have been doing ads for a while. Actually selling your data is illegal.

They still use your data to push ads so it's a violation of privacy. Just wanna get the facts straight.

Unless there's been some leak recently I'm unaware of?

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

It's just deceptive wording. I think most people would view "selling our decisions based on your data" as "selling your data".

[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They sell to brokers, who then sell to whomever.

Then also, chrome and firefox have recently gotten the option to track you offline and just pass that info directly to websites.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 4 points 1 year ago

I don't believe meta sells to brokers.

[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago

All we know is that they're an advertising business. For all we know they use most of it for themselves

[-] sadTruth@lemmy.hogru.ch 2 points 1 year ago

Here some info about how much and what kind of user data is being sold (GPS position,...), and the legality of it all.

[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

I don't need to read some German blog to know that a company with a long history of sketchy behavior is sketchy. They've gotten on the news with their behavior plenty of times.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 16 points 1 year ago

So, they're not lying. This is what they do. Meta is not in the business of selling (or leasing, like the other commenter said) your data. They are in the business of holding your data, so they can agregate it together and sell anonymous targeting. Same with Google and Apple. Plenty of reasons to dislike this, but that doesn't make it a lie.

[-] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

ToS never works. Libre software does.

[-] countrypunk@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

You're preaching to the choir

[-] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They're still crying over ToS.

[-] underwire212@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Where is the lie? They don’t sell your data. That’s not how they operate. In fact, they want to keep your data as secure as possible so no one else can use it.

They build models from user data and basically sell those models to businesses. Models that can be used to manipulate behavior and distort reality.

Data brokers, on the other hand…they sell your data.

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Surveillance advertising is a crime, period

https://www.zzzuckerberg.com/

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