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[-] twinnie@feddit.uk 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Let’s not cherrypick scenarios to try and pretend Linux is easier than Windows. Most normal people are nervous interacting with a GUI pop-up that gives them two options, never mind putting them into a terminal window where they could seriously fuck up their machine. What about clicking the download link on a webpage, clicking next a few times and having them software on your machine, compared to having to build something from GitHub (how many people here have never had to do that?).

[-] abfarid@startrek.website 6 points 3 weeks ago

This applies to pretty much all "Linux good, Win/MacOS bad" memes. I just assume that people either aren't really serious about them and it's just tongue in cheek, or they don't have any contact with regular people.

I used to work as a(n assistant to the) sysadmin and the things I got called over never stopped to amaze. For instance, there was a case when software was updated on the work machines and I got called because some lady couldn't use Adobe Acrobat. "It is asking me something, I don't know what". I come over and it's just a TOS Accept/Decline window.

Some people do not understand computers to an extent that they can lock up in a state of confusion when a button has been moved 100px in any direction from its usual position.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago

Most normal people are nervous interacting with a GUI pop-up that gives them two options, never mind putting them into a terminal window where they could seriously fuck up their machine

Maybe this is a problem that we should be addressing, rather than just making technology more of a black box, and raising generations of people who have no fucking concept of how any of it works.

[-] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

If you have a driver's license, do you know a car works besides the basic maintenance that is checking your oil and keeping the tires inflated? Some people don't even do that last one, while it's a thing you should check regularly.

I think it's a good thing the general public is able to use a computer without knowing the inner workings, but it also shouldn't be obscured from them if they want to know/learn.

[-] NoFun4You@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Lots of people don't care enough to learn

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[-] aski3252@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Unless you have a system without a GUI, you don't need to open a terminal in order to update or install stuff. There is a GUI for that. And no, you don't need to build stuff from GitHub for normal user stuff..

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[-] IHateReddit@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

been using linux for a few years both on servers and my pc and I never had to build sth myself

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[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

When you make fun of something that really isn't an issue it just makes your side look worse. Windows has real problems, but installing shit ain't it.

My dad can install anything on windows with clicks, he can't do shit with a terminal.

I'm a power user and love GUIs. I'll use git desktop all day everyday, instead of typing shit in a command line. It's one button press vs typing paths and hoping you don't misspell shit.

I don't really get the whole command line fetish, there are no extra points in life for doing things the harder way.

[-] redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago

Ah, yes. I also love it when I search for firefox on my new PC with Edge (without adblocker) and get sponsored malware in the results.

I still use windows but I think installing software on Linux is way more convenient. Especially with the AUR.

[-] Prok@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

The GUI app centers on most distros are quite usable without command line wizardry and reduces the risk of dodgey download sites

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[-] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago

I can't remember the last time I got a DLL error on my Windows laptop, honestly. I don't think that's ever happened on my current computer.

[-] ObstreperousCanadian@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago

I haven't had a DLL issue in Windows in like 20 years.

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[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

IDK, but I more often had issues with installing apps to Linux than to Windows, usually dependency-hell related ones, but once I had trouble enabling snap on Linux Mint.

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

but once I had trouble enabling snap on Linux Mint.

Seems like a win

[-] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

If you're enabling Snap on Mint, you might as well install Ubuntu.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

Mint activity tries to protect you from using snap.

[-] lastunusedusername2@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

This was made by someone who has never used either

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[-] Knightfox@lemmy.one 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I'm preparing for a new computer build and I have some questions. I'm feeling really scorned by Windows 11 and its incompatibility with my current hardware as well as the overall sense of that my privacy is being invaded. I'm not super familiar with linux, but I have messed around with various distros.

The build I'm planning to put together will likely use an AMD processor, but I'm uncertain about the GPU (definitely AMD or Nvidia). With my current build, RX 480 and i5-6500 I have found that in recent years I get massive artifacts in relatively old games such as Planetside 2 and Path of Exile (I also play Magic Arena quite a bit, but haven't experienced any issues there). I even get screen tearing when watching youtube or amazon prime. It's possible that my card is just dying, but considering that I don't consistently see these issues across multiple applications I feel like it might be a driver issue.

I'd really like feedback and to know more about Linux gaming (especially with the games mentioned) as well as experience with AMD, Nvidia, and Intel hardware.

Thanks to anyone who responds.

[-] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

In my experience, gaming worked great on Linux Mint. Overall, you may encounter issues with online gaming but only because the servers will see you're using Linux and decide you must be cheating. Not really an issue with Linux, more an issue with the devs not doing a proper job.

ProtonDB is a good resource to understand what games run well on Linux and what issues you may encounter.

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[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

No restart require on Linux is a joke, right? Because I get updates that require restarts as often as I get them on Windows when updating Mint.

[-] Camille@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

Unless you're updating the kernel itself, there is little chance you actually need to reboot your machine. Just restarting whatever service or application you're using should do the trick.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

Just following the update manager instructions

[-] Camille@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

You do you, it can't hurt to reboot and work on a fresh restart. But if for some reasons you need to keep your machine up, you'll know it is less of a problem than on windows typically

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[-] coherent_domain@infosec.pub 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I think mixing app and system dependencies is not the best idea, and Linux desktop is still fighting its impact.

When all the apps on a consumer laptop is expected to depend on the same dependencies, the system likely run into dependency hell, which means many apps needs to be downgraded in order to keep older apps working.

This mixture of system dependency and app dependency also prevents users to use the the latest version of an app on a hyper stable base system.

Flatpak basically aim to solve this problem, where each app chooses their own dependencies, so you don't need to downgrade all your app just because one app depends on python 2.7.

[-] PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I don't know about all the arguing and snark, but... I've been using Ubuntu (laugh it up) on my work laptop for the last 3ish years, and the vast majority of the time it really is "click install updates. wait 2 minutes. ok every program on your computer is up to date, just don't forget to restart Firefox". Can't think of a time where updating sucked. Sometimes I even go through the terminal just because it makes me feel cool to be a hackerman.

I dread updating my windows pc at home. Cuts into my WoW time too much.

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[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Edge (Microsoft browser) thinks the Microsoft Teams exe installer FROM MICROSOFT SERVER is malware, no joke.

[-] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 2 points 3 weeks ago

It is.

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[-] csm10495@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

Wait till you accidentally overwrite the system python.

[-] tsugu@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Open terminal

See whether the app is in my distro's repos, flathub, or snapcraft (It's not)

Go on the internet, search up the app's name

Download the AppImage (might be a virus)

LibFuse2 is not installed (fuck me)

Install LibFuse2

Install Gearlever to integrate AppImage into my desktop

I can finally launch the app

[-] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Fuck, I hate AppImages so much. Never heard of gearlever, thanks i hope this helps a lot.

Edit: Ok Gearlever is pretty great! Now I can finally open Heroic normally. That pissed me off for so long.

[-] lseif@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

> doesn't use arch/nix

"why cant i find my package in the repos?"

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[-] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

What the actual fuck are you smoking?

At least update this meme to the 2010s if you won't go to the 2020s

[-] dan@upvote.au 1 points 3 weeks ago

WinGet: Am I a joke to you?

[-] brianary@startrek.website 3 points 3 weeks ago

WinGet, choco, scoop, &c, they all have strengths and weaknesses, which is why I had to write this: https://github.com/brianary/scripts/blob/main/Update-Everything.ps1

It's also why I use Linux at home.

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