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This is a genuine question.

I have a hard time with this. My righteous side wants him to face an appropriate sentence, but my pessimistic side thinks this might have set a great example for CEOs to always maintain a level of humanity or face unforseen consequences.

P.S. this topic is highly controversial and I want actual opinions so let's be civil.

And if you're a mod, delete this if the post is inappropriate or if it gets too heated.

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[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Liberals: the justice system is corrupt so it is good Hunter Biden got a pardon

Also Liberals: this guy should be prosecuted

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[-] veniasilente@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Theoretically: no.

In practice, in the world we're living in? Hell no.

Any attempt to prosecute the killer would simply add to the advantage the ruling class already have, and be basically an injustice by definition no matter how "by the book" could it have been approached in the otherwise wondrful and illusory world of theory.

[-] aphlamingphoenix@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

I think the general reception of this news shows that any successful prosecution would be seen as such an injustice, and likely to spark further acts of rebellion. I almost think it's in the ruling class's favor to let this one go.

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[-] davidfield@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

For the social agreement society has, it's irrelevant if you think this person is a hero or a villain, they need to be tried by a jury of their peers in a court of law.

If they are not, then the social agreement that we don't go around murdering people, no matter the intent changes and life becomes very difficult.

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[-] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

No. If murdering cops can get away with it, so should someone who killed a guy who has indirectly killed millions through the racket that is health insurance.

[-] camelbeard@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Yes because killing people is wrong.

Look the CEO probably deserved to get shot, but a society can't function without some basic rules, like killing is bad.

[-] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

How do we get him to do it again?

[-] shikitohno@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

No, because I don't see any point to it. If they manage to catch him, they may as well just kill him on the spot when they get him, as I have no faith that his trial would be anything more than a farce to try and present some sense of following process and norms, while guaranteeing he gets some insane sentence, only to be found mysteriously to have hung himself. I'm sure that, somehow, a jury of his peers will be comprised solely of the 12 most ghoulish residents of NYC one could find, and they'll probably try to shop around for the worst judge they can to hear the whole thing.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Yes, of course

I don't want to live in a world of vigilantes, we don't want Batman, we don't want to need batman either

So having said that, CEO's should also be jailed for deaths they cause. If you cause a dozen deaths through purposeful decisions, you usually wouid get the chair so for this particular CEO would need a LOT of chairs to kill him a thousand times.

It's time to stop treating killings by man as a heavy crime and killings by a company as a misdemeanor

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Vigilante Justice in this case seems a lot better than police justice. How many people do cops murder in cold blood each year?

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Teo wrongs don't make a right. Fix the CEO issue, fix the police officer issue. Vigilantism is not the solution.

I get it, and this guy certainly deserved what came for him, but it's not right, it's not the solution. I don't want to love in a world where we just start vendettas ourselves

I'm more a star trek (classic) guy than a bat man guy, so to speak

[-] Krono@lemmy.today -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's so confusing to me how you can be pro corporate- and police-reform, yet against vigilantism. Were you paying attention the last 4 years?

We had a broad based popular movement for police reform resulting in a mass popular uprising. People went so far as large scale property destruction in the name of reforming the police. A large majority of the population supported the movement at one point. And what did all that nonviolent effort get us? Not a speck of police reform to be found anywhere in this country.

Saying you want police reform through nonviolent means is a utopian vision, just like star trek. Come back to reality, read some history, the only way to reform these entrenched systems of power is through violence.

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[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago

I know the mods on lemmy.world are deleting posts educating US citizens on their legal right to nullification if they're appointed to a jury, but I'll say it anyway. You can simply just refuse to find someone guilty, even if there's every bit of evidence and a video recorded confession.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

No. He did the right thing.

[-] joel_feila@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago
[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago

Yes, of course. Then face a jury. And hopefully go free via jury nullification.

[-] vga@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well all joking aside, he committed first degree murder so yeah. He should be prosecuted and sentenced to prison for several decades.

This should not be a difficult stance to make, and if you're having trouble reaching this conclusion, you need to take a very hard look in the mirror and get off the internet.

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