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[-] Thrillhouse@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Maybe they hired the wrong person for the job. This could happen with any worker no matter their country of origin.

Maybe they’re a shit manager whose expectations are not clear and who provides no training.

Maybe the employee is going through something at home that is impacting their work. It’s a good manager’s responsibility to know their workers and give them grace.

Racism is just a lazy person’s excuse for not analyzing the complexities of the situation.

[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Racism doesn't reduce complexity, it introduces complexity.

If you take two independent things, and then invent a rule to connect them. It's strictly additional complexity

And then for some reason people try and combat it by layering on ADDITIONAL complexity. "Have you considered there might be circumstances you are unaware of?" Like, now we've gone from two unrelated things that we've invented a relationship for to that plus some unobserved moral "dark matter" which we can't see but postulate could exist.

The simplest solution is the best.

"Hey we've got the laziest middle Easterners working for us, they're all so shitty"

"Yeah sounds like they're shitting the bed at work. Don't think it has anything to do with where they're from, though"

[-] Thrillhouse@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Idk the simplest solution seems to be “my company keeps hiring lazy people, what does the screening / interview process look like? Why do we keep fucking up on the people we’re hiring?”

[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

The solution I was referring to was disrupting malformed logic in thought patterns (racism).

Reconsider my original premise:

"Hey we've got the laziest middle Easterners working for us, they're all so shitty"

If you respond with "The real question is why does the company hire shitty people?"

You're not refuting the malformed logic. You're not disrupting the thought pattern. You're introducing new variables and shifting blame.

Carry that logic forward from the point of view of the person asking the question, they'll say "wow, you're right: we should stop hiring people from the middle east"

Which, I would assume isn't the direction you intended to steer someone's thinking.

Again, it isn't complicated and it's stilly to make it complicated. This person observes two things and then connects the two as being related (quality of worker vs skin colour). They just aren't related. That's it. If they're a bad worker they're a bad worker, why ask someone to reject what they're seeing with their own eyes? It just isn't BECAUSE of skin colour.

It quite literally is the malformed logic being: Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc

Nowhere else in logic do people refute that fallacy by trying to introduce new mitigating arguments. It's fundamentally flawed from the outset and can be directly refuted.

[-] Thrillhouse@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

That’s a lot of words to justify being racist.

It’s impossible to “refute the malformed logic” that not all Indian people are lazy bad workers because that argument is just a) factually incorrect unless, as I said, they attempted to work with all Indian people available to them, and b) made, I would argue in bad faith.

[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

You're going to have to explain to me how it's justifying racism to say that someone being a bad worker and the colour of one's skin are completely unrelated to one another.

[-] redditistrash@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Reddit is filled with losers

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Sounds racist to me.

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago
[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yep it sure does.

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

Report and see if he eats a ban, or continues to post.

[-] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I wonder if this is remote work.

There is a big uptick in qualified, competent people interviewing for a job and then SOMEONE ELSE doing the job. This has nothing to do with any region or ethnicity. It's just an issue that teams are facing with remote work.

The management should do their due diligence to make sure they hire the right person and train the new-hire appropriately.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago

but like this racist shit, right?

I will NOT like it.

[-] Junkernaught@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago

Seeing a ton of online racism targeted at Indians recently. Like, an unnatural spike.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -1 points 1 month ago

Well Canada over importanted them and Indigenous population is lashing out.

Politics 101

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 month ago

I can guess the postal code.

[-] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Sorry but sometimes the truth seems racist. I was working at a OPG solar farm and in - 30c there were 2 middle Easterners not dressed for the weather and not doing ANY work. Months on end they would just sit down and do nothing all day. And when ya asked them they would say, were doing a good thing by "working" there.

[-] Hegar@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

Sorry but sometimes racism seems like the truth to racists.

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago

In my last job, my manager said something along the lines of, "Client X is a cheapskate. It's not socially appropriate, but I know [stereotype] are all cheapskates."

I asked why is it a problem that they're asking for the lowest price.

Thats when someone said, "My wife is [stereotype] and she buys expensive things."

Of which, without even switching, went, "Yeah but she's a woman. I mean [stereotype] men are cheapskates." And everyone nodded in agreement.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 1 month ago

OK... Do you share anecdotes over lazy indigenous Canadians?

Asking for a friend

[-] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 month ago

Nope, seem to be hard working, just not the smartest. Never met a native I hated

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 1 month ago
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