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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by TheArstaInventor@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

As a strong supporter of open-source and community-funded projects like Lemmy, which prioritize serving users over investors, I believe Lemmy has significant potential, and that's why I am here. However, it is clear that its growth is nearing a plateau in its current form. Despite the surge in users following Reddit's API changes, Lemmy continues to primarily attract tech-savvy individuals, politically left-aligned users, and those accustomed to old Reddit. For Lemmy to reach the broader average general audience, meaningful changes are necessary.

The rise of Bluesky demonstrates the importance of ease of use and a user-friendly design. Its polished and familiar interface is a key reason for its growth and appeal as an alternative to platforms like X/Twitter. This same ease of use is what Mastodon lacked, leading to its initial hype fading quickly. The average user is unlikely to adapt to something that feels complicated or unfamiliar, and this challenge also applies to Lemmy.

As someone who started as an average Reddit user and became more tech-savvy over time, I can confidently say that first impressions matter. When users first visit lemmy.world, the default UI is often enough to discourage them from staying. Most will not explore the homepage sidebar to explore, figure out and switch to one of the alternative UIs available, which is unfortunate because a better UI could make a huge difference.

This is why I propose that large servers like lemmy.world adopt Photon UI as the default web interface. Photon is currently the best and most mature alternative UI, offering a visually appealing, modular design that feels familiar to users of new Reddit. It makes excellent use of screen space and provides customization options like compact and cozy views. Unlike some other alternative UIs, Photon is actively maintained and ready for widespread use, although in no way is it perfect, this can also help bring in more contributors to the project development.

While it is important to continue offering other UIs as options, I believe adopting Photon as the default UI could make Lemmy far more appealing to the average Reddit user. First impressions are crucial, and the current default UI has turned off many potential users. If we want Lemmy to succeed as a true Reddit alternative, we need to prioritize user experience and accessibility. Thankfully today, Lemmy still continues to be THE biggest Reddit alternative, while our userbase is still considerably smaller than Reddit, it's the biggest of any alternatives, and Lemmy continues to somewhat be in the spotlight for those seeking alternatives, we can't let growth stagnate, it's high time we make the platform more welcoming and appealing for the average joe.

EDIT: The image I attached is from photon.lemmy.world, which I just realized is using the outdated version of Photon, I have updated the image to the updated current photon version from phtn.app. There are a lot of improvements made.

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[-] technomad@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

I've been pretty happy with it as the default on !slrpnk.net

Before that, alexandrite was my go to.

The default Lemmy ui doesn't look good to me.

[-] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I feel like this also was reddits main issue. I started occasionally using reddit way back, probably around when I was also heavy on slashdot. I hated reddits website. Honestly even old is crap. There used to be a simplified app like version of the website you could access, forget what it was though. That was at least user friendly and functional. When I found sync is when I actually got heavy into reddit because something had solved all of reddits glaring issues.

[-] AnonomousWolf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm new to Lemmy and quite tech savvy.

I'd like to get more people I know to join, but the standard UI really wasn't nice. Thanks for showing me Photon, I like it so much more!!

I'm using Sync on mobile, I miss the Upvote & Downvote bar, any idea how to get it back?

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago
[-] astro_ray@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago

The information density in the UI is crazy high.

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[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

I don't think Reddit's redesign is a good thing to aim for. Personally I really like mbin's interface in compact mode.

[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

You really trying to convince us with a screenshot of the ugliest ui i ever seen huh

[-] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah I used old Reddit. I don't want something that looks like new Reddit

[-] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

You both aren't wrong... But this isn't about you.

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[-] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

I basically only use mobile apps, so I don't even remember what the desktop UI looks like. But if you say so!

[-] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yup. Voyager/Wefwef is basically the new Apollo. It’s not 100% there in terms of feature parity, but it’s damned close and is being actively developed.

[-] MITM0@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

This UI is so beautiful

[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

I think we need to actually do some new user testing, instead of endless discussion with nothing to back it up.

[-] asudox@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

Lemmy will be getting a new, more modern UI sometime soon.

It is being actively developed and you can even try it out today: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui-leptos

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

Has anyone deployed it yet? Curious to see what it looks like, but too lazy to deploy it myself

[-] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nah that looks like convoluted shit. Simple is better. Like old Reddit. Your screenshot looks like new Reddit dogshit.

[-] cabbage@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

People have their preferences, and that's fine. I certainly think we would benefit from different instances making use of different user interfaces by default, appealing in return to different kinds of people.

I've heard some people are not into Piefed because it's too bare bones or something. For me, that's exactly why I love it. Besides, they have even added (optional) support for decorative drop shadows - it's futuristic as fuck, as far as I'm concerned.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 1 month ago

Lol no. We need a UI that doesn't require JavaScript.

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[-] FrostyTrichs@walledgarden.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

For those who may not be aware there are alternative front ends available for Lemmy.

MLMYM is like old reddit. You can see what it looks like here:

mlmym.walledgarden.xyz

Voyager is multi platform interface that also offers a Lemmy frontend. Our implementation is here:

voyager.walledgarden.xyz

[-] Grilipper54@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

I am not as tech savvy as most people on Lemmy and I use voyager without any issues. I thought it was quite easy to get up and running.

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