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[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

These fucking things always tip-toe around the issue anyone wants a VPN for: Piracy.

Are you pirating shit? Yes? Use a VPN.

[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Are you pirating shit? Yes? Use a VPN.

I pirate and seed shit from Mexico no issues without VPN... My only headache is CGNAT.

[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Sadly the country has a lot of other shit to worry about, I don't expect that to change in the short or long time lol.

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

You'd be surprised how terrible politician priorities are

[-] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

CGNAT

I am so sorry. How do you usually circumvent that bs ?

[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

For seeding? Out of luck as I don't have a VPS currently, I used one to open my ports with some hacky ways using Wireguard and IPtables stuff, if there is a better way I would like to know lol.

Now I just constantly seed in hopes that people with the ports opened can access my stuff.

For accessing my files, Zerotier and Tailscale have been a godsend.

I also happen to have IPv6 support and I can access some exposed services through it without too much hassle, Plex and Bitwarden are two big examples.

[-] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Just so you know Proton VPN has port forwarding if you can afford them.

[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Depending on your ISP sometimes you can just call them, ask to opt out of cg-nat and they will do it for free.

[-] mayhair@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

and you don't live in a third world country 🙃

[-] nayminlwin@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Hooray for third world freedom. I've been raw-dogging torrent for years.

[-] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Are you pirating shit? No? Guess what, use a VPN!

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I mean, legit true though. A lot of ISPs are selling your data now too.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 22 points 1 year ago

I like how the article boils down to, "Except for some isolated use cases, Tor is far superior to a VPN in both cost and safety," and a lot of the comments boil down to "YEAH VPNS ARE GREAT GET A VPN."

It is okay to read the article before writing a comment, guys. In some circles, it's even encouraged, because you might learn something.

[-] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Except many services are very aggressive to Tor exit nodes, namely Google and Cloudflare. Everytime I just met with CAPTCHA after CAPTCHAs, and eventually I gave up on the site.

Yeah, I should cut ties with Google but cutting YouTube on NewPipe is hard. I'm on Proton and watching YouTube is already hard.

[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You may want to give Freetube a try, which may avoid that issue (especially if combined with libredirect).

Got the captcha endless wave yesterday using freetube on linux until I changed VPN nodes. I don't think it's proxying (not checked though)

[-] Oestradiolo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago

The latest captchas and cloudflare-turnstile approve you because the google-cloud flare networks have already determined who you are as an individual and just wave you through.

Tor gets the checks because they don’t know who you are and are seeing you for the first time. Getting a captcha means your privacy strategy is working.

[-] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is working so well that I get an infinite loop of it on the same page.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah the whole logic of "If I protect my privacy effectively, I won't be able to use Google services anymore! O woe" is a little bit strange to me.

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[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've had the same experience with vpn's requiring a captcha for every second website I visit.

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[-] Absaroka@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

If you're looking for a VPN, check out Mullvad.

It's just €5 / $5.25 / £4.15 a month. They haven't changed that price since launching in 2009. So they've also been around a while. Does everything you need a VPN to do. And they're based in Sweden, which seems to have some good privacy rules. They also don't keep logs.

[-] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

No port forward though (I understand why but it is still annoying)

[-] MrPoopbutt@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

What would be the benefit of port forwarding?

Is this something you could do on your router on your side, making it so it doesn't matter if they dont do it?

[-] heyixen815@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

Torrenting, can reach more peers. Especially helpful for older, less popular torrents.

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Do new torrents bypass this somehow, or is it just by sheer volume and popularity ?

[-] heyixen815@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

The latter. Seedboxes are becoming more popular these days, which might be good for future torrent preservation. But if you have a niche or old school taste, you are gonna have a hard time without port forwarding.

[-] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Sadly doing it on the router would not be enough. Not a problem if you are browsing of course. But if you host, needs to listen on a specific port or whatever it gets annoying. And obviously piracy.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

I love the ultra paranoid path Proton offers. It reminds me.of GoldenEye.

You -> VPN Server 1 -> VPN Server 2 -> TOR -> endpoint.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 22 points 1 year ago

"Good luck, I'm behind 7 proxies!"

[-] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Tailscale is the best VPN that exists rn.

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Not for piracy.

[-] SanndyTheManndy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Why did you not include DPI spoofing?

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 5 points 1 year ago
[-] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I guess it refers to things like GoodbyeDPI. A lot of people use it to watch Youtube after it got "slowed" rather than using a VPN.

Edit: also realized that meant obfuscation protocols like VLESS because VPN protocols are stupid easy to block.

[-] SanndyTheManndy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Getting around deep packet inspection.

[-] leanleft@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago
[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 11 points 1 year ago

Tor has plans for free/mo.

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And Tor sucks. You shouldn't use it for torrenting, it's frequently targeted by intelligence agencies for IP unmasking, etc.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 1 year ago

You shouldn’t use it for torrenting

True.

it’s frequently targeted by intelligence agencies for IP unmasking

I would take issue with "frequently," in the grand scheme of things, but yes. It is a sufficient level of protection that state intelligence agencies have to have specific methods, which sometimes work and sometimes don't, to try to specifically attack one specific actor on Tor if they care enough to do it. In contrast to a VPN, which any bumbling fuckhead in more or less any jurisdiction can generally defeat with a single subpeona, and even a fairly stupid intelligence agency can defeat without blinking.

Tor sucks

Your axioms don't add up to your theorem. There are cases where a VPN is better, torrenting being one of them, that part is true.

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[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Windscribe $2/mo. Also supports Wireguard. I don't even use their dumbass client, I just export a profile for Wireguard - which is quite a bit faster than OpenVPN

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