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[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 69 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

These fucking things always tip-toe around the issue anyone wants a VPN for: Piracy.

Are you pirating shit? Yes? Use a VPN.

[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

Are you pirating shit? Yes? Use a VPN.

I pirate and seed shit from Mexico no issues without VPN... My only headache is CGNAT.

[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

Sadly the country has a lot of other shit to worry about, I don't expect that to change in the short or long time lol.

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

You'd be surprised how terrible politician priorities are

[-] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

CGNAT

I am so sorry. How do you usually circumvent that bs ?

[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

For seeding? Out of luck as I don't have a VPS currently, I used one to open my ports with some hacky ways using Wireguard and IPtables stuff, if there is a better way I would like to know lol.

Now I just constantly seed in hopes that people with the ports opened can access my stuff.

For accessing my files, Zerotier and Tailscale have been a godsend.

I also happen to have IPv6 support and I can access some exposed services through it without too much hassle, Plex and Bitwarden are two big examples.

[-] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Just so you know Proton VPN has port forwarding if you can afford them.

[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

Depending on your ISP sometimes you can just call them, ask to opt out of cg-nat and they will do it for free.

[-] mayhair@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 months ago

and you don't live in a third world country 🙃

[-] nayminlwin@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago

Hooray for third world freedom. I've been raw-dogging torrent for years.

[-] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 4 months ago

Are you pirating shit? No? Guess what, use a VPN!

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I mean, legit true though. A lot of ISPs are selling your data now too.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 22 points 4 months ago

I like how the article boils down to, "Except for some isolated use cases, Tor is far superior to a VPN in both cost and safety," and a lot of the comments boil down to "YEAH VPNS ARE GREAT GET A VPN."

It is okay to read the article before writing a comment, guys. In some circles, it's even encouraged, because you might learn something.

[-] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Except many services are very aggressive to Tor exit nodes, namely Google and Cloudflare. Everytime I just met with CAPTCHA after CAPTCHAs, and eventually I gave up on the site.

Yeah, I should cut ties with Google but cutting YouTube on NewPipe is hard. I'm on Proton and watching YouTube is already hard.

[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You may want to give Freetube a try, which may avoid that issue (especially if combined with libredirect).

Got the captcha endless wave yesterday using freetube on linux until I changed VPN nodes. I don't think it's proxying (not checked though)

[-] Oestradiolo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 months ago

The latest captchas and cloudflare-turnstile approve you because the google-cloud flare networks have already determined who you are as an individual and just wave you through.

Tor gets the checks because they don’t know who you are and are seeing you for the first time. Getting a captcha means your privacy strategy is working.

[-] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It is working so well that I get an infinite loop of it on the same page.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 4 points 4 months ago

Yeah the whole logic of "If I protect my privacy effectively, I won't be able to use Google services anymore! O woe" is a little bit strange to me.

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[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I've had the same experience with vpn's requiring a captcha for every second website I visit.

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[-] Absaroka@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

If you're looking for a VPN, check out Mullvad.

It's just €5 / $5.25 / £4.15 a month. They haven't changed that price since launching in 2009. So they've also been around a while. Does everything you need a VPN to do. And they're based in Sweden, which seems to have some good privacy rules. They also don't keep logs.

[-] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

No port forward though (I understand why but it is still annoying)

[-] MrPoopbutt@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

What would be the benefit of port forwarding?

Is this something you could do on your router on your side, making it so it doesn't matter if they dont do it?

[-] heyixen815@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 months ago

Torrenting, can reach more peers. Especially helpful for older, less popular torrents.

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

Do new torrents bypass this somehow, or is it just by sheer volume and popularity ?

[-] heyixen815@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

The latter. Seedboxes are becoming more popular these days, which might be good for future torrent preservation. But if you have a niche or old school taste, you are gonna have a hard time without port forwarding.

[-] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Sadly doing it on the router would not be enough. Not a problem if you are browsing of course. But if you host, needs to listen on a specific port or whatever it gets annoying. And obviously piracy.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 months ago

I love the ultra paranoid path Proton offers. It reminds me.of GoldenEye.

You -> VPN Server 1 -> VPN Server 2 -> TOR -> endpoint.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 22 points 4 months ago

"Good luck, I'm behind 7 proxies!"

[-] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago

Tailscale is the best VPN that exists rn.

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

Not for piracy.

[-] SanndyTheManndy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Why did you not include DPI spoofing?

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 5 points 4 months ago
[-] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I guess it refers to things like GoodbyeDPI. A lot of people use it to watch Youtube after it got "slowed" rather than using a VPN.

Edit: also realized that meant obfuscation protocols like VLESS because VPN protocols are stupid easy to block.

[-] SanndyTheManndy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Getting around deep packet inspection.

[-] leanleft@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago
[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 11 points 4 months ago

Tor has plans for free/mo.

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

And Tor sucks. You shouldn't use it for torrenting, it's frequently targeted by intelligence agencies for IP unmasking, etc.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 4 months ago

You shouldn’t use it for torrenting

True.

it’s frequently targeted by intelligence agencies for IP unmasking

I would take issue with "frequently," in the grand scheme of things, but yes. It is a sufficient level of protection that state intelligence agencies have to have specific methods, which sometimes work and sometimes don't, to try to specifically attack one specific actor on Tor if they care enough to do it. In contrast to a VPN, which any bumbling fuckhead in more or less any jurisdiction can generally defeat with a single subpeona, and even a fairly stupid intelligence agency can defeat without blinking.

Tor sucks

Your axioms don't add up to your theorem. There are cases where a VPN is better, torrenting being one of them, that part is true.

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[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Windscribe $2/mo. Also supports Wireguard. I don't even use their dumbass client, I just export a profile for Wireguard - which is quite a bit faster than OpenVPN

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