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The country’s prime minister said the incident, the latest in a series of disruptions to undersea infrastructure, underscored the danger of a so-called Russian shadow fleet.

At least Finland is fighting for the good of humanity.

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[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 145 points 4 months ago

The West must fucking find its balls and acknowledge that we are in a hybrid war against the blyats. It is high fucking time we fight back. Using every means short of direct military conflict.

[-] Bezier@suppo.fi 71 points 4 months ago

Unlike the previous ships, this one was immediately seized by armed forces, so I guess we're starting to wake up.

[-] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 10 points 4 months ago

To my knowledge, it was escorted to Finland from international waters by the coast guard, after which the police quick-response task unit stormed the bridge via helicopter. Had the ship refused to leave international waters, there’s nothing they could have done. I applaud them for their boldness and aggression, but luck also played a role. As far as I’m aware, the previous ships never entered any country’s territorial waters.

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago

The previous ships weren't seen with hard evidence. This one had a missing anchor.

Apparently there are also some actions available on international waters where also countering pirates lies

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

Short of? Eastern Europe is being invaded and Europe is standing by...

[-] APassenger@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Rbf, I think they're waiting for the real* Europe to be invaded.

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[-] twistypencil@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

I studier the west is fully aware of that, and is fighting it on multiple fonts

[-] bitwise@lemmy.ca 127 points 4 months ago

We need to stop pretending that nuclear armament is an excuse to trample other countries with this childish crap.

Cut their internet and declare their currency holdings forfeit. Ban all travel to Russia. Force all companies to divest their holdings in Russia. Eject them from the UN.

Force them to live alone and if China joins in, then start ramping up production and give 'em the same treatment.

[-] Shawdow194@fedia.io 36 points 4 months ago

Keeping it tense between them and China is so good, alone theyll never make it. Watching Putin the panty poisoner and Xi Pooh bear give each other crusty blowjobs and get nothing from it is top 👌

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

If Europe and the US refused to trade with anyone who trades with Russia, China would embargo Russia in about half a second.

[-] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago

China knows we can’t stop importing all the garbage they send us. They have the markets cornered in so many items and materials that we really can’t embargo them.

[-] Zementid@feddit.nl 9 points 4 months ago

We could, but we prefer comfort, so we don't. That seems to sum up where society is today.

Climate change? People who leave their car running while shopping so it stays cool don’t care about genocide or war as long as it’s far away. And honestly, I can’t entirely blame them—I probably grew up ignorant about some issues too.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Yes we prefer checks notes having batteries

[-] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

It's kinda interesting when you think about it. If the US politics had actually been pro worker/union for the past 60 years, we would've had protections and increased production/economical stability in the country by just giving it's own citizens power. Instead they've given china the power of production and influence while creating a hostile environment for competition and success state side.

I dance between some people being so ignorant they have no clue what they're doing and some are just hired CEO politicians selling the country off as much as they can squeeze before it goes under and they scurry away with their nest eggs.

[-] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

We didn’t do it, CEOs and investors did it.

First they wanted more profit that cheaper labor provided, then they realized if we were all distracted by $200 TVs and cheap plastic based couches and clothes, we’d complain less about our stagnant wages at home.

[-] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

I'm not sure what you're trying to say, insert "they're the same thing" image. Politicians become CEO's, vice versa. Partners are investors, etc etc. Nancy Pelosi's husband (Paul Francis Pelosi is an American businessman who owns and operates Financial Leasing Services, Inc., a San Francisco–based real estate and venture capital investment and consulting firm), Hilary Clinton's time at walmart..

Mrs. Clinton used her position to champion personal causes, like the need for more women in management and a comprehensive environmental program, despite being Wal-Mart’s only female director, the youngest and arguably the least experienced in business. On other topics, like Wal-Mart’s vehement anti-unionism, for example, she was largely silent, they said. (link)

this was in 1990 when her husband was governor.

[-] Zementid@feddit.nl 1 points 4 months ago

Nah I thought Temu level consuming. The single use vapes. The trash machine.

[-] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

We can’t afford to furnish our houses without china. And our US big businesses know it. It’s how they were able to keep wages so stagnant for so long, they were leaning on cheap Chinese TVs and plastics.

[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 months ago

Yeah, it was recently revealed how much fucking absolute junk Finnish people order from Temu and other chinese horror story online stores. And then some of those people were interviewed and their attitude was "fuck you, I saved 20%".

[-] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

At least in the US, tons of IKEA (your scandi neighbor) is made in china too.

They have a near monopoly on basic things like screw production too.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago
[-] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

What's good for it.

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[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 116 points 4 months ago

You allow Russia to invade one country, you invite Russia to invade the next country.

You allow Russia to shoot down one passenger plane, you invite Russia to shoot down the next passenger plane.

You allow Russia to cut one undersea cable, you invite Russia to cut more undersea cables.

[-] bitwise@lemmy.ca 18 points 4 months ago

Appeasement just means more lebensraum.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 54 points 4 months ago

Russian bingo card

  • Cut under sea cables
  • Shoot down passenger airplanes
  • Poison people in horrible ways on other countries
  • Having a large part of the population being unable to pass windows without falling out
  • Invade countries (and thereby violating the treaty you signed saying you would not, making you as trustworthy as a Ferengi)
  • Commit genocide
  • I'm sure im missing more but i already got Bingo, yay!
[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago

Buy off incoming dementia riddled president.

[-] mynameisigglepiggle@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

They bought off musk? I thought he was already a POS

[-] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Musk is ketamine-addled, his puppet is dementia-riddled.

[-] uis@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I think Russia would gladly not buy Putin

[-] yeh74fjic8e5we@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago
  • Deny / Discredit / Deflect Although those aren't uniquely Russian
[-] Erasmus@lemmy.world 44 points 4 months ago

Just start ‘accidentally’ sinking the fucking ships that ‘accidentally’ cut the cables and that will get the message across.

[-] mycelium_underground@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago

That assumes Russia gives a shit about it's people.

Tap for spoilerRussia does not give a shit.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 months ago

Best use of spoiler ever...

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

We need to go a lot further than this, but yes.

[-] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 11 points 4 months ago

Let's not sink a tanker full of gasoline into an already polluted baltic sea.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 months ago

Then just do what Egypt did to some ships, seize them for an investigation and do it over 40 years while the crew is detained.

[-] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

I'm just waiting for the moment when a country exposed to "accidental" cable cutting, or attacks using water jets from the Chinese coast guard or similar, just responds by shooting first and asking questions later.

Like: You cut our cables/blocked our atoll from getting resupply, etc... put a 50mm in their face and carry on. Let them do the responding.

"Oh no, they were conducting acts of war and were in our way, so we sank them. What are you gonna do about it? Maybe stop doing that?"

[-] magikmw@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago

Oh but they crave escalation. Like any bully, they want the victim to respond violently, because that would justify their actions and let them respond in kind, saying they are just protecting their security.

Even those ship arrests are fodder for their internal propaganda - "They just started arresting innocent Chinese ships with russian crews! Barbarians AND Facists!"

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Trust me, bullies back down after escalation. Ever punch a bully in the lip?

[-] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

"They were coming right at my boat! I feared for the lives of my crew."

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[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago

Thank God for Finland.

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