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President Biden signs 1st federal anti-LGBTQ+ bill in nearly 30 years (www.out.com)

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This new bill, signed into law by President Joe Biden, includes a provision that limits access to gender-affirming care services for the children of people serving in the military.

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[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 91 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The bill just "includes" the provision? Nobody put it there, it's just that new language often spontaneously erupts in a piece of legislation?

And why the vague language of "limits access to gender-affirming care services". What's actually in the bill is no more complex and a lot more clear. Are psychological gender-affirming services still available? Yep. Are puberty blocking drugs still covered? Yep. All that's blocked is coverage for procedures that might result in sterilization - procedures that are already not generally done on minors who arguably aren't yet capable of giving proper consent.

Tell the whole story or GTFO. Debating Biden's complicity is fine, but don't skip the Republican's role with the passive voice like you're CNN describing how more violence just "erupted" in Gaza. Don't hide what's actually in the bill and potentially cause trans kids to not bother seeking medical services because they were misled by your hack politics.

This is not legitimate outrage at the legislation. If it were, you wouldn't have left out the main protagonists, what's actually in the legislation, and the entire story. It's just mastebetory outrage bait meant to divide the left which is (surprise) the entire reason Republicans forced the issue to begin with.

If you're not already a right wing troll, you should go find the people who pay money for posting this kind of garbage.

[-] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

All that's blocked is coverage for procedures that might result in sterilization - procedures that are already not generally done on minors who arguably aren't yet capable of giving proper consent.

I've been upset about restricting care. But if what you're saying is true, then it's VERY different from how it's been portrayed.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 4 points 7 months ago

Trans people and LGBTQ magazines aren't drumming up "illegitimate outrage" for Democratic complicity in passing anti-trans legislation. They had veto power in both the Senate and the White House and let it sail right through because it was easier for them.

And I've definitely edited out the personal attacks for posting such an offensive comment. But you certainly goddamned deserve them.

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 6 points 7 months ago

My comments were mostly directed at the summary, although a couple criticisms apply to the article as well. As I said, it's legitimate to discuss how complicit Biden is, and you can add the Senate to that as well. The problem is doing it in the context of incomplete and misleading information about what was actually in the bill, who put it there, and why. Such a discussion does more harm than good in the ways that I explained.

The bit at the end was perhaps over the top, but it's not wrong that this kind of reaction against the Democrats is exactly why the Republicans put it in the bill.

You weren't privy to the negotiations, so your commentary that Democrats just passed it because it was "easier" is entirely speculation. Stating that as fact is something I consider offensive. It also didn't just "sail right through". The negotiations took months, and the negotiations on such a bill don't end until the votes are known. The actual process of calling the vote is irrelevant. I criticize Democrats myself, but not for things I just make up in my head.

[-] b3an@lemmy.world -5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Other opinions not welcome apparently.

To be clear, I am for LGBTQ+ rights. I don’t exactly understand why everyone is annoyed at this article then.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 54 points 7 months ago

Fuck off Joe. Stop doing Trump's dirty work for him.

Pocket veto that shit.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

This whole thread is fucking disappointing. Yes it's super shitty that tricare isn't going to cover trans kids. We just had a budget showdown where Elon fucking Musk tried to tank the entire nation. Biden signed this shit and said he hated that he had to do it because it excluded trans kids.

I'm no Biden fan but holy shit get your course corrected and get ready friends because this ain't shit compared to what's to come.

[-] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 7 months ago

Agreed. The political ignorance of the common American is why it is so easy able to drive these wedges.

Anyone pissed at Biden about this is not a politically smart person and are easily manipulated becuase they not only lack political intelligence but lack the ability to gauge their lack of political intelligence.

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago

They could have just not funded the government/military, I would be fine with that.

[-] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yea they could have. But Biden didn’t shut down paychecks for regular folks right at christmas…

You’d be fine with that.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Biden had ample opportunity to end these budget hostage sessions, but he rejected them all.

[-] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

When did Biden control legislation? Did I miss him giving multiple vetoes to previous bills? The hell does this have to do with him and not every republican screwing up congress?

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If the DNC had chosen to run progressive policies we wouldnt be here. But they didnt and here we are.

[-] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

They should have. Obama running on “change” should have clued them into something. But still, Biden didn’t elect this congress, nor write this bill, nor did he cause this mess we’re in. It’s fair to say dems didn’t swing hard enough, but the GOP has an unrelenting presence, propelling the problem and yet getting votes. Thats on Fox News not Biden.

[+] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 7 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

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[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 9 points 7 months ago

If he vetoed the bill over this, Congress probably just wouldn't pass a bill to fund the military! It's must pass! This is our one shot! /s

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 4 points 7 months ago

And as we all know, if the military goes without approved funding limits, it completely breaks down and becomes useless overnight.

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 4 points 7 months ago

Sure would be nice if every single citizen of the united states gets to personally bitch slap every member of congress, presidential cabinet, vp, pres, etc... When a completely unrelated thing gets shoved into a bill.

There is 0 reason an (hypothetical) infrastructure bill for new sprinklers in hospitals needs to include a provision that Wisconsin dairy farms get a new milking machine. Those two things have nothing to do with each other. So why are they in the same bill.

If you want it to be a bill, put it in its own separate proposal.

[-] deranger@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

It’s not completely unrelated, it’s regarding gender affirming care for those who have TRICARE, ie the military insurance.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

If you want it to be a bill, put it in its own separate proposal.

As though Democrats wouldn't gleefully vote for that too.

[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 7 months ago

This is who he is, a pushover.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 21 points 7 months ago

They start with the weakest and most vulnerable and then they work their way out to the rest of us.

[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

None of you read the article or the white house quote. This is a purposefully misleading headline. Bill was poisoned by gop, if he doesn't sign it a shit load of other things are fucked, by design from conservatives.

None of you are adults, man. Gop is a cancer. You have to amputate your leg. Yes, you stop cancer spreading, but you lose your leg. Designed so that you're fucked either way, but the other way, you die. Grow up.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Democrats say the American public doesn't need the 2nd amendment anymore, but here they are proving to your face that when push comes to shove, no one will be coming to help you when your lawn has a mob of 61 MAGA coming to lynch you for whatever delusional reason they manufacture.

We are on our own.

SocialistRA.org

You're gonna die of old age soon biden, but your garbage legacy will linger forever in the history books like shitting on the pages and slamming the book shut.

A cowardly empty shell of a man to the bitter end.

Enjoy hell you piece of shit.

[-] VerbFlow@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

If you are a trans person in Cascadia, consider fighting for Cascadian indepence, or if you live somewhere else, fight for any indepenence movement you can find. Do not let your fear prevent you from dealing a blow to the United States, because it's a worthless nation.

[-] fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 7 months ago

With allies like these on Lemmy who the fuck needs enemies. So anytime we want to throw trans people under the bus just add it to a funding bill? Would y'all be singing the same tune if these provisions targeted gay people? Black? Jewish? At what point does an anti trans law cross the line for y'all? How many rights do we have to lose before you'll speak up?

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago

Bro... the genocide. All lines have not only been crossed but erased forever as the Democrats ratchet the USA to the right.

[-] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

Bro... the genocide.

Quote of this century. As we move into Trump 2.0 and the horror thereafter we will have “Bro… the genocide”.

Right up there with that comic of folks in a post apocalyptic hellscape saying “ but at one point we had profit for shareholders…”

Throw the baby out with the bath water. Cause bro…

[-] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

Once again, i shall post this meme

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

We just gave the presidency and both houses of Congress to Republicans. Apparently this is what America wants.

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

Democrats lost because a big chunk of their base was so disgusted at Democrats' behavior that they stayed home. Do Republican politicians start capitulating to Democrats en masse every time they lose an election? No. They look at their base and ask what they can do to get their votes back. Democrats in response to losing just try even harder to get Republican to vote for them.

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