Democratic strategist calls for ‘new generation of leaders’ as party plots response to Trump’s victory (www.theguardian.com)

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From remains an unabashed centrist who believes that economic growth, not the economic populism of Sanders or Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, is the answer. “It’s important the critical mass in the Democratic party show that it’s the party of opportunity, responsibility and community but not the party of the left,” he insists.

He also argues that the party should not be afraid to talk about law enforcement and developing a system of community policing rather than urging “defund the police”. Likewise it should embrace the idea of legal immigration and a border that is under control. From applauds governors who have made jobs available to people without college degrees.

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[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Oh my fucking God WHY THE EVER LOVING FUCK IS THERE ANOTHER FUCKING INTERVIEW WITH AL FUCKING FROM?!?!?! For fuck's sake, the last time I heard from this fucking dinosaur was after Hillary Clinton lost in 2016, and they were dragging his old ass out of retirement to explain why actually, despite losing to Donald Trump, moderate centrism was a good strategy. Almost ten years later, and they're dragging his even-older ass out here to do the same fucking thing? This dipshit's centrist strategy won one election 32 years ago, and now we've got to listen to him prattle on about how Democrats need to be more moderate forever? I mean, Jesus Fucking Christ, its bad enough we have to listen to a Democratic fuckwad explain why this, "win suburban moderates," strategy is good (even though it has lost to Donald Trump twice now). But for fuck's sake, is it too much to ask that that they at least find a fuckwad who hasn't been politically irrelevant for 20 years? Is their really no one else beside this fucking 80 year-old ghoul that can champion this stupid, obviously ineffective strategy? I mean, fucking hell, what the fuck are we even doing here?

[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Dems picked a throat cancer ridden geriatric instead of a young woman.

They have a fetish for old farts

[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

To be fair, it was Jerry Connolly's turn. There's nothing more important than that.

[-] WeUnite@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

I read the article and it doesn't really seem that bad. What he says is this:

“Basically what the party needs is some sort of a force – whoever it is – of people who are perceived as future leaders going out and saying: this is what we want this party to stand for. I did it in the 80s and 90s. They can decide what’s appropriate for the 20s and 30s.”

He's not telling us how he wants the party changed, he's just calling for a big visible change in the party that will help us win elections again.

[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Except you're glossing over the parts where he insists that being centrist and courting moderates, AKA the strategy Democrats have been losing with since 2000, was the path forward:

From remains an unabashed centrist who believes that economic growth, not the economic populism of Sanders or Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, is the answer. “It’s important the critical mass in the Democratic party show that it’s the party of opportunity, responsibility and community but not the party of the left,” he insists.

“The Democratic base alone is not enough to win elections, he warns. The party needs to reach moderate voters in the suburbs who “love the compassion” of the Democrats but question whether they have the “toughness to govern” as well.

Every pundit is saying the same stuff he's saying about working on the party’s communication, finding fresh faces for leadership, winning back the working class, etc., but he's being dragged back out to push centrism and remind everyone of the one time this strategy payed off in the 90s. I mean, he's literally saying they should, "not [be] the party of the left," after Harris got her ass handed to her with a centrist campaign. It's absurd.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

It's already considered the party of the left by everyone except the left. They might as well lean in, because the centrists aren't going to vote for them anyway, apparently.

[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Exactly. They've called literally every Democratic candidate in the last 20 years a radical socialist. They might as well run on some socialist positions, since some of them (for example, HEALTHCARE) seem real popular right now.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago

This is the exact kind of fucker that just helped get Trump elected.

[-] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 months ago

Yes, and now they are proudly declaring they aren't going to put down the shovel. They want to keep digging this hole we're in.

There is no bottom by the way, they will just keep digging until enough people learn the lessons. If we wait to see how bad it can get it will only get worse.

[-] cogman@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

In an era where people, right and left, are loudly cheering on a guy that allegedly murdered a CEO, this idiot advisor thinks the direction we need to go is defunding Medicare and further privatization of government functions.

This jackass wants Democrats to be a conservative party to respond to the existing conservative party. He literally wants to do the southern strategy again.

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

We need progressives, not neoliberals

[-] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago

And socialists too! =)

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

We need STAR voting, not First Past The Post voting.

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[-] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The democratic party is always going to shun leftism because they get a buttload of money every year to turn a blind eye to good reform policies. Money and leftism dont mix, so the money makes sure leftism doesnt stick.

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[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Why doesn't the party start with being embarrassed for losing to MAGA? Until they can come out and say they are a bunch of failures and admit to the role they've played in sending this country down the shitter, the DNC is a sunk cost.

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

AOC should be the next head of the party. If not they will fail. No one else in the party now is good enough except Bernie but he's too old now. Nancy needs to go

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

AOC voted to keep the rail corporation safe from a union strike. We deserve better representation.

[-] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Okay. Do you have a better name in mind? I don't agree with everything AOC has done, but she has been a needed change to the party.

[-] xor@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

the DNC needs to be completely overhauled or thrown out. Bernie would’ve definitely beat Trump but they actively conspired against him, and then when sued for fraud, claimed they never said they’re actually democratic, in spite of the name… and won in court.

the GOP tried to stop Trump as well, and in spite of being complete pieces of shit, they actually are democratic and couldn’t stop him.

but, as they say, the entire system is stupid and designed to fuck us over.
i see this continuing until the collapse of the usa, and probably the entire planet’s ecosystem

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[-] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 3 points 5 months ago

This is exactly what they HAVE been doing for DECADES! What a crock of shit!

[-] PlantJam@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Yes but now there's a fresh dose of "but not like Bernie" to placate the blue donors.

[-] skeezix@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Shit hasn’t come in crocks for over a century. It’s a re-usable refrigerable stackable storage container of shit now.

[-] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

These are people who would see Franklin D Roosevelt as an extremist.

Instead he was the most consequential and effective president the US has ever had and the right have been unpicking his legacy over the decades since. The Democrats have been complicit in that.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

SHIVERS [Medium: Success]

Democrat strategist boardroom, 2AM. Three men are pacing around a conference table, their polished leather shoes staining the papers scattered across the dimly lit room. They look stumped, sweat dripping from their reddened foreheads. One of the men stammers half words and stops himself, discarding another idea. The man to his left lights a cigarette.

After an uncomfortable silence, glimmer returns to his eyes, he snaps his fingers and promptly says: "What if we sucked even worse?"

[-] cogman@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Literally "you know who was a great president? Ronald Reagan".

[-] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

Disco shitposts are the absolute pinnacle of the art.

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I want to get off of Mr. Jazz Asphodel's wild ride :(

[-] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Hilarious. Why do a less committed version of the same shitty politics as the other party? Who the fuck is this going to win over? Did you miss what happened in November?

I would ask if they were high but that would encourage creativity and awaken any remaining embers of idealism so it can't be the case.

Just leaving this here for no particular reason https://youtu.be/3cdqQ2BdgOA?si=eDv9_1tiy_bvlFCJ

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 months ago

Ffs. Get rid of the dinosaurs and start over. If the Dems can't do it, maybe it's time for a new party.

[-] weeeeum@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Yeah. I'm done with the dems. After seeing pelosi win from her hospital bed I knew there was no future for this party. Their only identity now is the "not trump" party, which doesnt work when half the country views him favourably.

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