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This is wild because I had never heard of this news anywhere. R.I.P. DivestOS, my favorite mobile OS. Anyone know of a project with a similiar goal of deblobbing android?

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[-] Earflap@reddthat.com 9 points 1 month ago

Yup! I didn't use much of their software but I did like Mull. I'm currently mull-ing over what browser to use next.

[-] potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish 2 points 1 month ago

I loved Hypatia, its the only floss antivirus for android

[-] viking@infosec.pub 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Woah, I never knew Hypatia is part of the Divest team. Here I thought I was unaffected by the shutdown... I wonder if they'll keep the av updates coming, since they are provided by ClamAV.

Edit: Looks like the script that converts clamav to hypatia compatible packages is public, I'm tempted to run it myself and host the files on my own server. That way I can just set the database override link within the app to my domain and done.

https://codeberg.org/divested-mobile/hypatia/src/branch/stable/scripts/Main.java

[-] potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish 0 points 1 month ago

They said that they would stop updating the database :(

[-] viking@infosec.pub 2 points 1 month ago

Sucks big time. I just polled the latest available update from the 27th, but I guess that's it then. Will look into preparing my own packages, if I'm successful I will try to host them on github or something and share the link.

[-] Bz1sen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago
[-] Earflap@reddthat.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not obviously. Fennec doesn't have all the same privacy protections that Mull did. I think Tor is the only browser left that has everything I want but I don't want to use Tor for general purpose browsing.

[-] Renohren@lemmy.today 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

EDiT: The following is eroneous, Tavi isn't the only dev and the project is mainly maintained by two others as the replies to this comment say.

Fennec on fdroid was by the same dev, so dead too.

[-] Wilmo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Its not by the same dev. Tavi seems involved via the git commits but the project seems to mostly involve someone who goes by relan and another called IratePorcupine

[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 5 points 1 month ago

I didn't see a reason. Did Tavi give one and I missed it?

[-] Lumisal@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I posted this comment elsewhere:

In case anyone is curious as to why, here's a direct quote from them (Tavi) in Fairphone forum:

As mentioned, it is the 10 year anniversary. That is a long time and I need to move onto other projects in life.

They also have this for those looking to replace Mull: https://divestos.org/pages/browsers

[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 5 points 1 month ago

Oh good. I was hoping it was a "moving on" reason, as opposed to a catastrophic one. Thanks for settling my nerves lol

[-] 0x0@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

Back to Fennec i guess...

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

That's so cute! I work with an OS release from 2002. Like, the OS has been around, and we're just working with Major Version 10, until it life-cycles out at age 27, when we're on just v11 (11.4 today).

Maybe there'll be a v12, maybe it's not for another 27 years and I'll be dead. Who knows?

[-] potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish 1 points 1 month ago

I didn't either.

[-] IllNess@infosec.pub 3 points 1 month ago

I know it's a lot of hard work but I hope a group of people pick this project up.

R.I.P. DivertOS.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 1 month ago

GrapheneOS is a similar philosophy as divest, remove as much risk surface as possible. Only pixel phones getting security firmware updates are supported though

[-] potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish 2 points 1 month ago

yeah for ancient pixel users like me it's impossible to get modern android... I'm using lineage for now and i'll wait to see how this plays out.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 month ago

https://grapheneos.org/build#build-targets

you could always build GOS yourself and use the older targets (and get the vendor files from the aosp)

It's more elbow grease, but its not too much

[-] Eeyore_Syndrome@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I mean.... I upgrade every ~2/3 years.

But only during sales and only with boosted trade ins.

This year I got two 9s for ~$150 with boosted trade ins for my 7pro/8pro and holiday sale.

There's even a

10% off referral:REF-KLO02BCXE32GOJVRD02QC2J

And technically Graphene has extended legacy support for:

4a,4,4XL,5a&5

Cheaper than worrying about battery replacement for old crusty pixles >.>

[-] michael_palmer@lemmy.sdf.org -4 points 1 month ago

Did you know that not everyone on Lemmy has or wants a Google Pixel?

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

No one said they do

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't have any opinion about what phone you want to have. Be happy.

https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm

I'm satisfying the OPs question, with real actionable data. I'm not running around down voting people because they like things I don't like.

However if you, or someone with your same attitude, wants to pick up the DivestOS repos and builds, I will applaud and cheer!

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

Hush. That's like saying everyone on lemmy uses Debian or arch.

Oh. Wait.

So, I've been using their Mull browser for a good while now. What's a good replacement now that it's dead?

[-] viking@infosec.pub 1 points 1 month ago
[-] Renohren@lemmy.today 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

EDiT: The following is eroneous, Tavi isn't the only dev and the project is mainly maintained by two others as the replies to this comment say.

Fennec on fdroid is dead too, same dev...

[-] potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish 2 points 1 month ago

Fennec is not maintained by Divested, but who they actually are maintained by is a mystery. I hear a mix of Mozilla themselves and that it's just firefox with different build scripts. The F-droid page links to everything firefox except the issue tracker, which links to here.

[-] Renohren@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

I was wrong. Amended my post. Tavi was just one of the three Devs. The other two put in more commits than him.

There goes all the good forks I guess.

[-] Renohren@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

No, I was wrong: fennec on fdroid is good. Sorry about that.

[-] muhyb@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago
[-] coherent_domain@infosec.pub 1 points 1 month ago

Yes, from the announcement, it seems true.

[-] muhyb@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

That sucks :/

I'd have to assume so, since it was developed by the same people.

[-] muhyb@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

Didn't know about that. I hope someone takes over the project but being a browser dev is tough.

[-] LemoineFairclough@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago
[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Check out calyxOS, only tricky part is that it's mostly for pixels.

[-] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 month ago

I'm using lineageOS. You can choose whether to add Gapps (google bundle) to it. By default there's no google anything. Most devices officially supported by the project work great from what I've seen. It makes old phones faster in some cases.

[-] potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish 2 points 1 month ago

IMO it doesn't go far enough with deblobbing and removing nonfree software, but for the time being i'll switch to it. Hope someone continues this project.

[-] limerod@reddthat.com 1 points 1 month ago

IMO it doesn't go far enough with deblobbing and removing nonfree software, but for the time being i'll switch to it. Hope someone continues this project.

Who goes far enough in deblobbing?

[-] potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish 1 points 1 month ago

Divest. They removed as much proprietary software as possible without making the device unusable.

[-] PoorPocketsMcNewHold@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

DivestOS was a fork of it for good reasons. LineageOS doesn't offer the same privacy or security features Divest had in the first place. https://divestos.org/index.html

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