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[-] lazylion_ca@lemmynsfw.com 154 points 3 weeks ago

Even the people who pay for insurance don't have rights either.

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 82 points 3 weeks ago

If everyone just said fuck it and stopped paying their insurance, it would crash not just those companies, but domino into taking out the entire stock market.

Like, these companies are worth so much, and they invest in others and people invest in them. If their entire revenue stream is stopped at once that's it.

Which makes it kind of a nuclear option, one I've intentionally not mentioned and haven't seen anyone else either.

But the day may be coming

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago

Corporations mainly pay for health insurance. Imagine employee's reactions being told they were getting cut off. Not going to happen.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

If the employee cancels their plan, the corp ain't going to keep paying.

I don't know why someone would read my comment and imagine I meant corporations should cancel their employees insurance...

But I think that's what happened here

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

We don't get to drop out plans at a whim.

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[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 weeks ago

Interesting idea, but you’d need to get employers on board. Many of whom are publicly traded companies.

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[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 79 points 3 weeks ago

Just wish the US would get a universal healthcare system like every freaking other developed country in this world. Will never happen. Ugh.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 50 points 3 weeks ago

Nah, the Republicans would rather see you spend twice as much per capita (the whole population!) to cover a third of the population via public insurance and then get you guys to then spend money on private insurance and then have to pay any time you need any care.

You know... Fiscal responsibility...

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[-] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 76 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Nah, we talking about the real Luigi

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[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 65 points 3 weeks ago
[-] ramsorge@discuss.online 54 points 3 weeks ago

Ha ha ha. Pop pop pop.

When the denying starts, the deposing starts.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 3 weeks ago

"Those who make peaceful reform impossible make violent revolution inevitable."

RFK Jr.'s Uncle is rolling in the grave

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Probably his father too.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 48 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 47 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

They do in other modern countries. Oh wait, except they don't have "uninsured" people. If your government can't guarantee you basic things like clean air and water, protection, health... what the fuck are you paying taxes for!?

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 3 weeks ago

what the fuck are you paying taxes for!?

dead brown kids!

[-] winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 weeks ago

Dont forget the billionaires!

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[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 46 points 3 weeks ago

Single payer healthcare is so complex to implement that only 22 of the 23 most developed countries in the world have done it.

The US system is grotesque.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

The US system is state sanctioned terrorism of the civilian population by the plutocracy, for profit.

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[-] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 41 points 3 weeks ago

Just think: you all did the right thing, holding your nose at the polls, voting for Fetterman to block Oz. And now you have both of them.

[-] pachrist@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

Life, uh, finds a way...

[-] Subtracty@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Not fucking happy about it. Worst possible outcome.

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[-] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 3 weeks ago

Isn't life already pay to play enough? How much blood can you get from a stone?

[-] Disgruntled@lemmy.ca 32 points 3 weeks ago

They're going to keep squeezing to find out.

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[-] Gorram_Reavers@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago

Delay, deny, depose

[-] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago

He really has talent in choosing all his picks. "Ummm who could be the worst person ever to fill this role?"

[-] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 weeks ago

Every one of those terrible picks has been a deliberate, careful choice to destabilize the country.

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago

Except the NASA guy. He's probably pretty good. But his job is to funnel contracts (and therfore billions of dollars) to spacex.

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[-] Gork@lemm.ee 33 points 3 weeks ago

Under your plan, UnitedHealth’s revenue from Medicare Advantage would roughly double to $274 billion annually,” the Democrats wrote.

That's the point.

I'd like to see another outcome, like the government withdrawing their contracts due to fraud, but regulatory capture is strong here.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

I’d like to see another outcome

It wasn't possible...

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/unitedhealth-group/summary?id=D000000348

They bought Kamala too, even if she won they'd be winning.

Shit like that is what depressed turnout. Moderate Dems just keep taking loses like that because their goal is as narrow wins as possible.

They want to be just better enough than Republicans that they can win. But they ignore that better candidates would easily win.

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago

what he really meant is that non millionaires dont deserve world class health care

[-] vividspecter@lemm.ee 28 points 3 weeks ago
[-] rekabis@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 weeks ago

Considering that the majority of the GOP electorate is in the bottom-50% of incomes, this becomes very much a “leopards ate my face” moment.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

America Last. WTF, the Government of Putin wants an epidemic to break out. How many people in the red run welfare counties would be affected by Dr. Oz's plan? Indeed, a shit ton and they voted for it.

[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

What a piece of shit.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

It's neat watching lemmy's centrists acting like they object to the idea of letting people go bankrupt and die, in that order, for insurance companies' bottom lines.

Democrats killed the public option before a single Republican voted on the bill. Joe Lieberman was enough of a Democrat to run for VP, and you don't get to disown him just because he did what you wanted but don't want to admit wanting. And it's not like he did what every centrist wanted by his lonesome, either. Ben Nelson was instrumental in killing the public option.

Biden promised that he was going to revisit the public option. Like so much of what he promised, it was always a fucking lie.

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