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[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I'm Joe nobody Shmoe and I've installed solar in my home. Its awesome. The fucking laws in San Diego California...of all places... Make it difficult for anyone to run solar outside of the grid.

Anyway, stop? Like we are all aware, so stop the lying? I'm teaching my kids how to do it. So stop lying?

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

Our power bills get more expensive.

Um, mine haven't, and we have been expanding solar quite a bit. Here's a list of states by electricity production source, and I sort by solar, my state (Utah) is #4 (if you count DC) and our electricity costs have stayed around $0.12-13/kWh after all fees (depending on how much you use). This article lists states by electricity costs, and my state is 6th cheapest (10.85%).

Fuel costs are the main contributor according to the EIA, and the state with the highest percentage of solar is only at 21% (we're 10% at #4, so it drops off quick), and most states are primarily fueled by fossil fuels. Renewables aren't driving up prices, otherwise I would've seen my electricity prices rise as the share from solar rose, especially given our cheap access to natural gas (we produce it) and coal. But no, our prices stayed steady despite record inflation, and the energy company is only this year being considered for a modest increase to energy prices (probably to catch up w/ inflation).

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I find it amusing that this story comes up right next to this other one about German power costing less than nothing because of renewables.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/34786535

[-] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 1 points 6 months ago

Green energy is somehow both way too expensive and dangerously cheap.

That can literally be said by the same individuals in adjacent sentences depending on the narrative they’re spinning at the time.

[-] Viri4thus@feddit.org 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

TLDR daily on YouTube was spreading fud also recently. It's amusing to see the fossil fuel media reach. It also helps identify who are the shitheads that sell out for pennies.

[-] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I dropped all the TLDR channels, they are not clued in enough to be talking in such depth on most topics.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Can you point to a specific video? I find they're usually pretty accurate with facts, and they even recently had their FAQ where they addressed some misses they had.

I've missed a few videos in the last couple weeks due to the holidays (I tend to listen at work), but I didn't see any headlines about fossil fuels from the last couple weeks, at least in the Nebula app, assuming that's what you're referring to.

[-] Viri4thus@feddit.org 3 points 6 months ago

It's been removed from Nebula (likely from the pushback) where they dunked on Germany and doomed everything because the gas reserves were at 80% which was inaccurate and the video was full of FUD regarding renewables. The one where they blatantly wash the image of the Saudis is still up tho.

If anyone knows how to search for deleted videos, I'd love a chime on how to do it.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Is it this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M92gzY0SUu8

That one is still on Nebula. I don't watch TLDR EU very often because it's rarely relevant to me as an American.

[-] Viri4thus@feddit.org 2 points 6 months ago

Yes, this video is so full of shit it's amazing. Starting with the winter average temp, to the actual reserve levels, to using Macron as a thumbnail, etc. I'd be surprised if these guys aren't being supported by some foreign interventionist think tank or by oil companies trying to sow dissent.

The German government published some scenarios and publishes accurate numbers, we're quite above the capacity that would originate the gas rationing exposed in the government scenarios. We're currently between scenario 1a and 1b.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Yeah, seems kind of odd. It seems like they've been trying to get more "engaging" content at least since the WTF USA series, and perhaps this is more of that. Hopefully it's just a slow news month.

[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 0 points 6 months ago

seeing ads on youtube saying "SolArr PAneLS rUiN YOurr rOOf!"

[-] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 months ago

Right, that can happen. If an idiot installs the panels. But then, idiots can cause all sorts of problems, like making blanket statements such as the one above!

[-] dinckelman@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

This shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone. Fossil fuels are on the way out. The companies in possession of the resources have a vice grip over the entire planet, and they know that their time is limited. You can’t monopolize wind or the sun, and they’re afraid

[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Their wealth is going to end up with a lot of "stranded assets".

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Eh I’m more concerned about whoever is still pushing nuclear these days.

It’s a worse solution that takes longer and costs more to achieve what renewables and storage already can. It’s mainly wielded to attack renewables, and nothing ever gets done with it beyond that.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Nuclear has its place in the world, and it's pretty much a given that in order to maintain high availability and energy stability we will not be able to rely solely on one single source. It can't be all renewables, but it can't be all nuclear, either. We are going to need a mix of both.

Nuclear can serve e.g. big time industrial, manufacturing, or other mission critical needs with large amounts of power that is reasonably clean and, importantly, very stable.

We just need to keep it from falling totally into the hands of morons who want to waste it all on "AI" datacenters, or whatever the fuck else.

[-] vividspecter@lemm.ee -1 points 6 months ago

It can and will be multiple renewable sources of generation and storage, with nuclear only having a limited role (especially if SMRs don't become a thing).

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Anything that isn't a fossil fuel is better then a fossil fuel.

[-] TheFogan@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago

I disagree, I think nuclear is a half decent stop gap. Especially when noting renewables aren't a universal perfect solution for every location. (IE not everywhere has good sun or wind). Doesn't mean we should 100% move to nuclear, but the faster we can get rid of coal the better.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago

Is it more expensive than storage? My understanding was that nuclear was cheaper long-term, but I honestly don't know. I think we need both, but I could be convinced that nuclear is obsolete with some real-life numbers.

[-] Womble@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

It's not, to provide 2 weeks of storage (a reasonable amount to cover a period of no wind in winter) for the UK would cost about 2,000 Billion USD at current Li-ion prices.

Intermittent renewables are great as a component of energy generation but storage costs become prohibitive as you get to large fractions of intermittent power generation.

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