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Good guy clippy (lemmy.zip)

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[-] SurpriZe@lemm.ee 1 points 9 hours ago

Eh, not that bad

[-] Gladaed@feddit.org 14 points 21 hours ago

The checkbox should be grayed out.

[-] Maven@lemmy.zip 2 points 21 hours ago

But I want to always delete Electron Applications...

[-] darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 19 hours ago

That's why the checkbox should be grayed out, so that you can't uncheck it.

[-] Maven@lemmy.zip 7 points 19 hours ago

OOOOOHH! I get it now!

I thought you meant grayed out so it couldn't be checked.

My bad. You're right.

[-] umbraroze@lemmy.world 22 points 23 hours ago

Yes

Yes, and also delete Electron

That, and also make me forget I ever even heard about Electron in the first place

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

[-] serenissi@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Any tech college kid can write an app in common frameworks. I'll admit llm code generators are great when they can translate electron apps to say tauri or even better to QT at reasonable cost :)

[-] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago

Qt “cute” (the UI framework)
QT “cutie” (QuickTime the Apple media framework)

[-] Maven@lemmy.zip 8 points 19 hours ago

QT "cutie" (you 😊😳)

[-] pool_spray_098@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Well that would be even more impressive.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

KATE >>>>>>>>>>>>> VSCode

[-] serenissi@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Yes, except container devel (need to use ssh).

[-] Pechente@feddit.org 143 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For anyone considering Electron: take a look at Tauri. It’s another way to build cross-platform apps with web tech. It will use the OS‘s web rendering engine instead of shipping Chromium which results in much smaller binaries and faster startup times and less RAM usage. You can also write native code in Rust. It’s like Electron but good.

[-] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 51 points 1 day ago

Bad for Linux at the moment...

That being said, it won't improve just by saying it's bad for Linux, if you work as a maintainer in a distro, or know a lot about Linux and rust to help their development then please reach out!!!

The sooner tauri is usable everywhere the more people will prefer it

[-] Ziglin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Works fine for me on endeavourOS (Hyprland and i3).

What makes it bad for Linux?

[-] Pechente@feddit.org 27 points 1 day ago

I didn't try out a Tauri app on linux yet, I just know that it's generally supported. What doesn't work (well) as of now?

[-] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

First I've heard of this. What's wrong on Linux?

[-] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Outdated theming and ~~several widgets(?)that aren't implemented~~ general instability such as random crashes, code not behaving similarly to Mac or Windows, slowdowns, missing packages in builds, a lot of window resizing issues and uh, fuck load of appimage issues

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 71 points 1 day ago

Electron apps are a crime against computing.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

A crime commited by techbros of the early 2010's, who envisioned an end to desktop applications, and them being replaced by websites.

[-] szczuroarturo@programming.dev 6 points 23 hours ago

To be fair making native aplications was( maybe even still is , the last time i touched anything non abap related was in uni )very unnesecarily complex thing back then especialy compared to the simplicity of web frontend .

[-] aliser@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

what's are the alternatives? I want ease of writing UIs js/CSS/HTML gives, especially with frameworks like svelte.

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

A webpage.

[-] renzev@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Or, get this, a PWA.

[-] Maven@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'd highly recommend Tauri. It's much much much faster and you can use svelte for the front end and enjoy all of those benefits.

The "downside" is that all of the backend is written in rust which can be trouble to learn... (Downside is in quotes because rust is my favorite language and I would legally marry it if the law cared about the true meaning of love) However! If you don't care much about the backend stuff or most of that is gonna be simple anyway... Just use it. It's better in every way

Edit for context: I'm the lead developer of a "popular" (it's as popular as you can be as a niche tool for a niche community) open source project that uses Tauri with a svelte front end and rust in the back end.

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[-] mlg@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago

I think VSCode is the only stable electron application and even then it took them like 5 years to reach passable stability lol.

Used to crash and combust all the time when I first tried it.

[-] kshade@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Etcher seems stable! But it's also a well over 100 MB download for a disk image writer. Rufus does more in less than 1% of the download size and also has a GUI.

[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Never realized that Etcher was an Electron app and it makes a lot of sense.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

Yeah that crashed for me across several versions too lol.

Latest works, but I have like 5 different ones saved because I think 1.16-1.18 wouldn't complete writing to disk.

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 14 points 1 day ago

Zed is native and it has way better performance! You can tell it's not Electron!

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[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago

HTML5 applications goddamn well ought to be first-class programs, as a totally platform-agnostic realization of Turing completeness.

Instead you get every application bundled with its own whole-ass operating system and virtual machine. For a fucking webpage. Yep! No other way to run that on a modern computer!