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Fake vegans (sopuli.xyz)
submitted 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) by rbn@sopuli.xyz to c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Vegans being banned and comments being deleted from !vegan@lemmy.world for being fake vegans.

From my perspective, the comments were in no way insulting and just part of completely normal interaction. If this decision reflects the general opinion of the mod team, then from my perspective, the biggest vegan community on Lemmy wants to be an elitist cycle of hardcore vegans only, not allowing any slightly different opinion. Which would be very unfortunate.

PS: In contrast to the name of this community, I don't want to insult anyone here being a 'bastard'. I just want to post this somewhere on neutral ground. I would really appreciate an open discussion without bashing anyone.

Linking the affected users and mods: @Cypher@lemmy.world @gaael@lemmy.world @gredo@lemmy.world @iiGxC@slrpnk.net @veganpizza69@lemmy.world @veganpizza69@lemmy.vg @jerkface@lemmy.ca @TheTechnician27@lemmy.world @Sunshine@lemmy.ca @Aqua@lemmy.vg

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[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 hour ago

PTB. vegans deserve better representation in their leaders than this i hope we can get an alternative community that can allow discussion without weird purity purges.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 1 hour ago

!plantbased@lemmy.dbzer0.com

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 hour ago

so true! plants are based

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

Dang, an actual PTB!

Defining removing the comments was already borderline PTB, though one can argue that since vegans tend to insist on dealt strict policies in vegan C/s, that it is within bounds to remove comments and posts as needed to maintain their space.

But holy shit, the "you aren't a real vegan" went right off the rails. And then bans for it. That's not even crossing the line in this specific case, it's kicking the line and spitting on its grave.

Mind you, sometimes it's necessary to ban people that aren't an actual part of the specific group a forum/community is for. It is case specific whether or not someone is power tripping.

But this case is soooo far into power tripping it's almost a parody

[-] gaael@lemmy.world 33 points 7 hours ago

Lol found out here that I had been banned from the community. Ty for sharing the information :)

Regarding the matter, I understand their reaction.
I've been interacting with some vegan circles IRL and some are more "hardcore" (not in a negative way) than others. When you consider animal exploitation as mass slavery, mass torture and mass murder, it becomes increasingly difficult to tolerate even light deviations from the all-vegan path.

This being said, I would have preferred they had a better wording for the temp ban reason than "fake vegan" by which I feel insulted and hurt.

[-] quirzle@lemmy.zip 14 points 5 hours ago

(not in a negative way)

Debatable.

One of my best friends is a long-term vegan. He generally avoids telling people because he so strongly hates being lumped in with this crowd of asshats.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 26 points 6 hours ago

The "all or nothing" crowd really knows how to stomp on progress, huh?

[-] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

It's like they don't realize that by being this hostile towards any other viewpoints, they drive away people who might otherwise be interested in becoming vegan or want to learn more. All it does is harm the community in the long run, and then they wonder why there's a stigma around vegans. That stigma then feeds into a persecution complex and that becomes a nasty vicious cycle.

[-] AngryishHumanoid@reddthat.com 17 points 6 hours ago

Not a lot of 100% vegan grocery stores, where do they get their food?

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[-] Nuerion@lemmy.world 42 points 8 hours ago
[-] misterdoctor@lemmy.world 11 points 5 hours ago

Here I am fully ready to deep dive into some drama from a community I have zero investment in and it’s impossible to read 😩

[-] Shadow@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago

Are you using sync? If so, It's a sync bug. Open the post and then click the image from there.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 6 points 4 hours ago

Your instance seems to be serving you up a thumbnail of the image instead of the actual image. I recommend temporarily looking at the post from another instance, such as mine.

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[-] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 31 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Lol, I got my vegan card revoked (declared "a carnist") and handed my first fedi ban by the "Real Vegans™" too, for daring to call out their bullshit and ableist militant gatekeeping.

Good luck to them and the toxic cesspit they're so adamant on maintaining, the last thing anyone should be seeking is these people's approval, especially not on being a "good" or "real" vegan, since they make it crystal clear that their top priority is and always will be their own egos. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[-] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 2 points 2 hours ago

I’m so sorry! I’ve had that happen to me as well. It’s not only toxic but just makes me feel bad

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this post was submitted on 10 Jan 2025
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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