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[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is what happens when you feel ownership over a community.

He thinks "I built this community" and to an extent he's correct, but as with the nature of communities, it doesn't matter if he helped build it, the community is by definition made up of the people of the community... not just the guy who spearheaded things way back in the day. Especially something like an open source project, if he wanted this level of control he should have kept it closed source.

If you think you own your community, you're in for a bad time.

[-] UndulyUnruly@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

“But I’m just a narcissist, I’m what matters here. You must worship me, why don’t you? I’ll cut off your legs.”

He's actually cutting off his own legs and soon he'll be dancing on pegs.

[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

He dances for nickels

[-] nixcamic@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

When you want to build a cult of personality and accidentally build a flourishing diverse community lol

[-] kalleboo@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They weren't even planning to create a fork.

Basically Matt interpreted their "we're going to take over work within Wordpress since Matt abandoned it" as "we're taking over Wordpress from Matt" and is telling them through some tortured rhetoric "you aren't Wordpress, I'm Wordpress, you go do it in a fork instead"

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago

Holy shit, the amount of pure seethe in the jkpress post could power a small city.

The more of Mullenweg's posts and such that I read, the more he comes across as someone that took some professional/business writing classes and thinks that just because he's using business speak conventions it means that he's not coming across as a massive petulant child.

It's a shame, because he does have some valid points it seems: that the proper existing process wasn't followed for offering to take the lead, and questioning security and sanity controls in a distributed theme/plugin system.

But it's buried so deep in barely concealed shitslinging that it's nearly impossible to take seriously.

He certainly seems to be labouring under the mistaken impression that he's a business genius.

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 week ago

Wonder how pissy he’s gonna be when the project is forked and everyone leaves the original.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

My dislike of Wordpress is being validated every day

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[-] irotsoma@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

I don't get the logic of cutting off contributions of any kind unless they were actively sabotaging the projector something. Seems like that just makes the fork basically a guarantee. And in open source, a fork that discourages community is always going to be at a disadvantage.

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago

Man, this meltdown just keeps fucking going, doesn't it. Every time I think Mullenweg has finally settled down, he does something else incredibly dumb.

Sad part is that he's likely to get away with this pne since it's not effecting a company with enough money to make it a legal battle.

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

This will not kill Wordpress outright but it might very well significantly factor into the decision of every future person deciding if they should write a plugin to support Wordpress or some alternative CMS or if they should host a Wordpress instance or something else, especially companies offering commercial hosting.

It might even lead to a project or two that will eventually replace Wordpress in its dominant position.

[-] thesystemisdown@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Classic Press is a fork of WordPress that leaves out Gutenberg and has all the legacy PHP < 7.4 stuff stripped out. It's nice.

https://www.classicpress.net/

[-] mesamunefire@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago

It's not the same but laravel is a neat dev platform as well. Lots of community made libraries and relatively drama free.

[-] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

I program a lot with both wp and laravel over the last years. Not sure what I want to say other than they are cool but different vibes and skills.

Wp can be used out in the box by almost anyone who is web savvy; laravel is always needing some assembly, at the least, so the entry there is programming or deep pockets to pay that.

Wp community and sites is probably a thousand times larger than laravel?

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[-] daddy32@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

WPE is already in legal battle with him, isn't it?

[-] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

Sounds like a spoiled child

[-] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Trump's disease is spreading.

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago

remember when matt publically attacked a trans woman on twitter because she called him out about his transphobia

[-] Mortoc@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I do not, source?

Not that I don’t believe you, but if we’re gonna hate on this guy even more, we should make sure it’s for facts.

[-] pmc@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

Hopefully he explodes with hammers and hammers go flying everywhere

[-] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 8 points 1 week ago

Speaks at Disrupt

People try to disrupt his profit

“No you can’t do that”

[-] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Who disrupts the disrupters?

[-] Archer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Starfleet Intelligence

[-] MITM0@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

As if people didn't Clone Wordpress already, let's call it BlogPrint

[-] Dagamant@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

100% switching to whatever the fork ends up being.

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

just filing this away...

.. t.. u.. v.. w.. x.. woops. back up.

w.

there we go.

right before xfree86 in the file of forgotten projects that fucked-up big, and lost.

[-] thejml@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So, someone else forks it and then the contributors just fork that one. This is dumb gate keeping when there are other gates readily available nearby.

Pretty sure no one told this guy how FOSS is supposed to work or what licensing even means.

Best case scenario here he’s basically asking for is that the open source community forks this to a new project, stops contributing at all to the official one and since he’s announced he will literally have one developer work on this (45hrs per week, down from 4000 supposedly), the new fork becomes the defacto standard and his company is left peddling old wares full of bugs and exploits no one wants.

[-] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

I think he misunderstands the label/title “benevolent dictator for life” that can get assigned to people on some really popular open source projects.

[-] revv@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago

Honestly, it's kind of heartening how infrequently they forget the benevolent part.

[-] mesamunefire@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If anyone wants to see it from the horses mouth:

https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=photomatt

That's him.

[-] 8000gnat@reddthat.com 2 points 1 week ago
[-] kokesh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Can someone remove this asshole?

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

It's more likely that a fork becomes dominant, making him irrelevant. That's almost the same thing.

[-] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

That's better, because he would have to live his life knowing he completely fucked himself.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Do you think he has enough self-awareness?

[-] Archer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Hell no. Can’t wait to hear about his new Wordpress cryptocurrency launching soon

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[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

That’s not how open source is sposto work…

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago
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