Note. Keep your comments here on topic about whether the mods are PTB or not. Generic vegan-bashing won't be tolerated
mods are PTB
What is that?
Power tripping bastards
Ah... makes sense :)
Acronyms are in the sidebar
Or as we say ; AAITSB
Join plantbased and be done with it. I don’t want to even call myself vegan because of these cringe lords
I made !vegan@lemmy.dbzer0.com last night as well
Thanks for sharing! The two communities can be a team :)
Word, plantbased is such a nice community. It isn't as busy, but the folks there are awesome.
I’m trying to add to it! :) glad you find it welcoming too
The same mod banned me and deleted my comment where I called her out for equating eating meat with domestic violence. She clearly gets off on the smell of her own farts.
I am not vegan but do occasionally like to see what plant based products are available. I blocked c/vegan specifically because it seems like the whole community is one short step away from eating their own and I don't want to get involved with any of that.
I am an ovo-lacto vegetarian and I avoid most vegan spaces.
I can understand being on guard because so many people make fun of or try to troll vegans. I can't understand being openly hostile towards each other to the point that mods have to lock whole threads etc.
I got banned from the vegan home cooks community with the reason being "troll defense".
Made no comments, just liked having it in my feed for recipe ideas.
Maybe they didn't like the way you were voting?
Possible, I tend to upvote before fully reading things so maybe I upvoted the wrong recipe
Didn't we just do this a few days ago?
Apologies I missed that one.
I guess Im more asking people’s verdict on my particular ban
It's indeed exactly the same comments. I was banned along with you and posted it back then. In the other thread also Sunshine (the mod) responded but doubled down on her decision.
I find it very unfortunate that !vegan@lemmy.world apparantly doesn't allow for debates but I guess that's in the end the decision of the mods.
The ban definitely seems unnecessary
While I disagree with corpo speak, bans like that don't make much sense.
Just block the place and move on. That's the fedi way.
Everything was probably said in those 364 comments
I didn’t feel the need to check if my ban had already been discussed so didn’t know about that post until after posting.
Could you say they power trip? idk maybe. But one thing I would say is, if you are in a vegan community just to talk negatively about it. How do you think it might make vegan minded people feel? So they probably want to keep the community a safe space for Vegan's.
What a carnage.
I’m so bored of this shit. The whole vegan vs everyone thing is so boring and played out.
I agree, and my criticism wasn't about anyone's being vegan or not, just their shitty attitude towards people losing a restaurant and jobs.
I do hope people don't wade into a pro/anti vegan slugfest. I would rather see if people think the rules were fairly enforced.
Man, I troll that kind of vegan, and those mods are the kind that swallow the bait with eagerness.
There's actually a really great plantbased C/ now that isn't run by the zealots, so there's friendly convos going on. It's so nice to see.
That being said, within their idea of what that community is supposed to be, they do treat everyone equally badly when they voice even the tiniest hint of anything other than fervor. So, it's relatively fair, in that they don't play favorites, and apply mod actions consistently. They may use shitty rules that aren't clearly spelled out, but they apply them in a predictable way.
It's why, even though I would cackle at them if they rose to bait, I don't ever feel comfortable calling it power tripping. It's crap, it makes the community suck, and it makes it difficult on any vegan that isn't a zealot. But that's a different issue to me.
Now, there's mods of other vegan communities that are power tripping as hell. Well, one, but I ain't going into drama that old beyond using it as how I draw that line. A different mod in a different vegan community decided to issue bans to all his communities because of someone (me) not agreeing with him in the way he wanted to see it. That's power tripping.
Someone being a crap mod and running a community poorly isn't the same thing, if you get where I'm coming from.
Crap mods can end up being fair, simply by virtue of being crappy to everyone lol.
Nobody is forcing you to read it.
lol.
So, to be clear, the restaurant was formally vegan. Then, due to financial struggles, added carnist options to the menu and alienated a lot of their regular vegan cuatomers resulting in them shutting down.
This was old news.
Also, I can understand the mods being spiteful about things like this. It sends a message that if you're a vegan restaurant and you add carnist options then you will lose customers, not gain them. Valid point if you're primary concern is animal welfare. I'm vegan and I don't want to give money to any business that profiteers of animal cruelty.
That said, I think the mod should just say that rather than banning you. Though perhaps those communities get brigaded with a lot of anti-vegan bad-faith bullshit arguments and the mods are a bit quick to the ban hammer as a result.
There is a several hundred comments thread about that sub on here...
Ye Power Trippin' Bastards
This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
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- Provide the cause of the sanction (e.g. the text of the comment).
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- Don't use private communications to prove your point. We can't verify them and they can be faked easily.
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Some acronyms you might see.
- PTB - Power-Tripping Bastard: The commenter agrees with you this was a PTB mod.
- YDI - You Deserved It: The commenter thinks you deserved that mod action.
- BPR - Bait-Provoked Reaction: That mod probably overreacted in charged situation, or due to being baited.
- CLM - Clueless mod: The mod probably just doesn't understand how their software works.
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