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submitted 13 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) by Prof_mu3allim@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

Habiibii, Hayaati, and Hayawaan all start with the letter ح, the sound does not exist in English.

With your mouth open, make a raspy, breathy sound as if you're breathing on glass to fog it up. You wanna constrict the muscles inside your throat so that air can just barely squeeze through.

Your vocal cords should not vibrate.

We transliterate ح as a capital H, so as not to be confused with the h sound in English.

Transliteration Eng عَرَبي
Habiibii my love (masc.) حَبيبي
Hayaatii my life حَياتي
ruHii my soul روحي
Hayawaan animal (masc.) حَيوان

 

Imagine you just swallowed a spoonful of very hot chili. And yes when ح is the initial letter it looks like this حـ, so that we can connect the following letter to it. Remember, Arabic is written from Right to Left.

Habiibtiiحَبيبتي my love (fem.)

Check the colloquial (Egyptian) pronunciation here

 

Possessive pronounsIn Arabic, possessive pronouns (like "my") are attached to the end of the word. To say "my love" you just attach the letter ي to the word حَبيب (love, beloved) = حَبيبي


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[-] aebletrae@hexbear.net 1 points 39 minutes ago

In the "Hayawaan" transliteration for حَيوان, is the "a" between the "y" and "w" part of "ya", part of "aw", or an implicit third thing?

[-] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 2 points 4 hours ago

is there a good textbook you can recommend? I need some exercises or something to engage with, simply reading will not have me remember anything.

Also I love homework.

[-] Prof_mu3allim@hexbear.net 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I'm gonna include exercises for sure, but for now it's kinda too early for us to be able to do that.

is there a good textbook you can recommend?

I know this might be a bit shocking but I'd say no there ain't, because Arabic gets very little attention from the language learning industry and a lot of the material is aimed at "diplomats" wink wink, that is why I make the material myself. But when it comes to the alphabet I guess any book will do, maybe check Alif Baa Introduction to Arabic Letters and Sounds.

Edit: By material I mean the pdfs I share with my students, not these posts.

[-] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 2 points 2 hours ago

thats what my arabic teacher also said when I took some classes a couple years ago, was hoping the situation is different in english...

[-] Prof_mu3allim@hexbear.net 23 points 13 hours ago

This is our second Arabic lesson I guess emilie-shrug

[-] Prof_mu3allim@hexbear.net 17 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)
[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 3 points 9 hours ago

Maybe ping me once we get past the alphabet/phonology lessons?

[-] awth13@hexbear.net 6 points 11 hours ago
[-] iie@hexbear.net 7 points 12 hours ago

Add me please fam

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 4 points 11 hours ago

i'm not sure, what is this list?

[-] Prof_mu3allim@hexbear.net 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

It's just a watchlist for work, nothing to worry about brandon /jk

List of comrades who wanna be pinged when I post lessons.

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 5 points 10 hours ago
[-] Prof_mu3allim@hexbear.net 5 points 10 hours ago

tony-cheer

The first lesson in case you didn't see it.

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 4 points 10 hours ago

very nice of you, thank you

[-] Cowbee@hexbear.net 13 points 13 hours ago

Came for the post image, stayed for the fascinating lesson. Great job!

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 5 points 11 hours ago

i love how you explained that and i knew what you were saying

[-] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

So the marker for possession ي is pronounced similar to the i like the i in sit? Are all possessive markers attached to the end of a word? (No need to go into depth if that's gunna be a later lesson)

[-] Prof_mu3allim@hexbear.net 11 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

It's pronounced like the ee in 'feel' or 'beep', and it's just a letter. It's transliterated as ii.

Are all possessive markers attached to the end of a word?

Yeah, they are actually called Attached Pronouns, and they are used for more than just expressing possession.

[-] dat_math@hexbear.net 4 points 13 hours ago

Is ح sounded like a ח in hebrew?

[-] awth13@hexbear.net 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

No, more like ה.

The difference between ה and ח is similar to the difference between ح and خ.

[-] Prof_mu3allim@hexbear.net 7 points 11 hours ago

It sounds like ه in Arabic, not ح.

I found this in a reddit comment:

/ħ/ ח - ح.

In modern Hebrew most of the people pronounce the ח as /χ/, but still there are many people pronouncing it in the original way.

[-] awth13@hexbear.net 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Obviously depends on where you are from but Hebrew speakers I know will pronounce ה like this (h) and ח like this (χ). The difference between these two sounds is similar (I’ve chosen this word carefully to avoid claiming it is the same) to the difference between ح and خ. There is no equivalent to the actual ح sound in Hebrew as far as I know.

[-] Prof_mu3allim@hexbear.net 4 points 11 hours ago

Yeah I thought you meant they had the same sound.

[-] awth13@hexbear.net 4 points 11 hours ago

I hope I didn’t confuse anyone, thank you for clarifying (and the lessons) ❤️

[-] Prof_mu3allim@hexbear.net 7 points 13 hours ago

Well, it seems they share the same Semitic origin, but I think the answer to your question is probably no. I don't know any Hebrew, but I know that Hebrew speakers have a hard time pronouncing ح .

@infuziSporg@hexbear.net iirc, you know (some) Hebrew?

[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 4 points 10 hours ago

lol no, maybe like 50 morphemes.

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