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submitted 1 month ago by cm0002@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.world

Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new "king"

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[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Proton better shut this dude up as I really don't want to find a new platform :|

[-] rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

bad news, Proton’s official reddit account doubled-down on it as a company position (edit: but it was also him too)

[-] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yikes. I was just about to shell out for Proton VPN, but now I won’t.

[-] Skydancer@pawb.social 1 points 1 month ago

I would suggest Mullvad as a trustworthy alternative.

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I too can vouch for Mullvad, excellent service and privacy

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

ugh, gross. i just signed up for a month to try and get away from google and the rest of the us companies bending the knee. how to trust proton that they won't give up your data the second trump asks now? time to get a refund and put it toward infomaniak sigh

[-] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Was considering them, now I'm not. I'll keep using mullvad.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

No one going to comment the Trump absolutely did not write that? Read it; completely coherent, proper English, all that.

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Not one all caps word. No fuckin way he wrote that.

[-] NotAnotherLemmyUser@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Well... The word "FAIRLY" was written in all caps.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Makes me feel a lot less confident about having a protonmail account. Best alternatives for privacy?

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Best? Hosting an encrypted email server in your own house. As a service, mailfence seems to be a decent alternative

[-] irenesteam@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

Can you elaborate on what software or solution would allow someone to host an encrypted email server? Would outgoing messages be encrypted or just encrypted at rest? What about if you also had your family member on the same setup and you wrote to each other, would it be encrypted?

[-] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago
[-] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 0 points 1 month ago
[-] TheAgeOfSuperboredom@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago
[-] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 0 points 1 month ago

They give you poorly disguised ads that you can't unsubscribe from in the form of a "news letter". These appear as emails in your inbox with special styling that sticks out. They've recently started pushing new features in the Calendar that you need to be the higher paying tier to use, but they still have special styling to make them stand out. If you try to use them, you get a huge popup saying you need to upgrade. They've been removing features from the lower tiers and demand you upgrade to keep using it.

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

Every time I open my inbox, I got a new notification about either upgrading to a paid tier, or the exact same thing but disguised as a feature announcement.

[-] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 0 points 1 month ago

If you're looking for a new home, Disroot has free email services with a one-time payment if you want a custom domain attached. I'm just giving them the money I used to give Tuta every month. I don't want to sound like a shill, so I'll keep it short: I believe in Disroot far more than I ever did Tuta because Tuta was a business and Disroot is a movement. Disroot isn't in a position where a fat cat investor is gonna start squeezing them for a return. Their last finance report also looked pretty good.

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

I'm tempted, but Disroot has two things that will probably keep me away, unfortunately.

  1. Email is stored unencrypted on their servers
  2. The site is associated with political activism

There are technical reasons for #1 being true (and ultimately, even if they encrypted the email, I would have to trust them anyway) but this opens extra venues for exploitation. Coupled with #2, the site may be targeted by activist groups who don't like the politics associated with them, or participants on the service might be automatically associated with it. Personally, either of these issues on their own tends to be enough for me to avoid a service. I respect Disroot but it's probably not for me.

[-] Killercat103@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

Perhaps riseup if youre an anarchist or posteo if youre willing to pay a low fee?

I use posteo myself. Its alright and reliable. Would try Riseup (kinda got political) but idk anyone to ask for an invite code

[-] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Keep in mind this is only one of five board members of the Non-Profit that owns Proton AG

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

still not a good look when your selling point was being outside of 5/9/14 eyes and you're cozying up to the government of objectively the worst country, privacywise

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Still a decision maker and able to convince other members though.

[-] BenDoubleU@lemmy.radio 0 points 1 month ago

I guess Andy or the proton social media team has started using the corporate bluesky account to discuss it now.

https://bsky.app/profile/proton.me/post/3lfrqm6wpzs2p

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

interesting that it's deleted now

anyone got a screenshot?

[-] BenDoubleU@lemmy.radio 0 points 1 month ago

Wow they really need to get in check. I do have the screenshots

[-] ansiz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Hilarious, talks about corporate Dems yet is supporting corporate Republicans. Elon Musk is arguably the face of big tech and so acting like Trump is going to 'do something' to big tech is also delusional. Big tech has already gotten out the checkbooks and kissed the ring down in Florida.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Thiel, Musk, Zuck, and Bezos among others.

It's beyond parody that you'd pretend Republicans aren't owned by corporate and tech interests, I quite frankly don't believe he believes it.

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

ugh gross they think trump, who has big tech ceos lining up at his door, or the republicans, who want to kill encryption and vpn accesses are going to tackle big tech? welp time to get a refund.

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

We didn't get what we wanted so we choose evil.

Never used em but i feel for people who did.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Makes sense. The little guy did vote for Trump

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago

Not with the obesity rates among the conservative base.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

Yes, even obese people can vote. What's your point? Or are you confused about the phrase? It's not literal, FYI

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