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[-] ZoDoneRightNow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 month ago

"The cost of running the hallucination machine is too expensive so instead of charging people who want to use it, we have instead decided to charge everyone who uses any of our services even if they don't want to use the hallucination machine"

[-] Bwaz@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Wow Lotta folks gonna discover that LibreOffice is much better than MS Office. Not to mention, free.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 13 points 1 month ago

Wait, they think people want Copilot? Like enough to pay money for it?

[-] Avg@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

They are banking on customers being too invested in office to switch.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

I think that might be their plan for all their products at this point. Just existing though inertia.

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[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

That with a side of suppressing a competitor. Similar to how they include Teams for corporate plans. If it is included in your M$ apps suite, then your company might want to cut back on Slack and just make due.

[-] Avg@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

MS teams sucks so fucking much, I don't understand how such a large company can make such a deficient product.

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[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There are home users of Microsoft 365?

I'm not shaming but I kinda am. Like WTF is wrong with you? You pay for free shit.

Office employees don't get to choose.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 month ago

Actually I have admin access to my work laptop, so while my employer pays for what ever the fuck they pay for I frequently use FOSS instead.

I do it to make a point.

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[-] drascus@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

So I've never used Microsoft office because I could never afford it. I went from notepad to wordpad to OpenOffice to libreoffice. I've never had a single issue even as a professional not using word. I actually really enjoy writing as a hobby and I just don't get this copiolet thing. Why would I want something to do the thing I like doing? Screw that.

[-] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

For professional settings, I understand the theoretical appeal of ai writing. A lot of people don't like writing emails, but they have to for work. Many of those same people fret about tone or presentation, because silly office politics reasons (real or one-sidedly imagined in their heads.)

The solution, really is workplaces just need to cut down on the useless drivel emails and people need to be ok with short, no frills emails.

[-] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 3 points 1 month ago

There are tons more applications in the workplace. For example, one of the people in my team is dyslexic and sometimes needs to write reports that are a few pages long. For him, having the super-autocorrect tidy up his grammar makes a big difference.

Sometimes I have a list of say 200 software changes that would be a pain to summarise, but where it's intuitively easy for me to know if a summary is right. For something like a changelog I can roll the dice with the hallucination machine until I get a correct summary, then tidy it up. That takes less than a tenth of the time than writing it myself.

Sometimes writing is necessary and there's no way to cut down the drivel unfortunately. Talking about professional settings of course - having the Large Autocorrect writing a blog post or a poem for you is a total misuse of the tool in my opinion.

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[-] nothingcorporate@lemmy.today 9 points 1 month ago

For anyone who doesn't already know the good FOSS alternatives:

[-] Uli@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 month ago

I spent about 20 minutes today trying to get Copilot on Word to tell me how to disable Copilot on Word. Worth every penny.

[-] vaderaj@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

The clippy we all deserved

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[-] archomrade@midwest.social 8 points 1 month ago

Preaching to the choir here but LibreOffice has been excellent since my MSOffice license expired. Unless you're working in an enterprise setting with MS-specific macros or online collaboration, there's no reason to be paying for basic document editing software in 2025.

There are also self-hosted and open-sourced collaborative editing suites available that I haven't tried yet, but there are plenty of options

[-] AppearanceBoring9229@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Even if you need microsoft office for some random file you can use their free web version. Well it's been a couple years since I last needed it I'm assuming it still exists

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[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

COPILOT IS NOW A PAID FEATURE?????? hell nah, microsoft be banking on their users.

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[-] ATDA@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Fun story, it's called office 365 as when you see the price you'll turn 365 degrees and walk away.

Ok that doesn't really work but God I love that stupid joke.

Anyway I haven't used office personally for ages and never seem to run into real compatibility issues with the meager personal/business overlap in my situation.

[-] Kuma@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

It made me chuckle a little imaging that you do a full 365 degree spin Infront of Microsoft and then walk away (in an awkward way), instead of 180 degrees to walk the opposite direction haha

[-] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

365 spin, then realizing your mistake and awkwardly walking backwards out of the room

[-] MyRobotShitsBolts@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Technically speaking with 365* of rotation if you are far enough away you will be able to walk past microsoft, so this is possible.

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[-] xuv@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

At the right distance it's just enough pivot to give them a spiteful shoulder check on the way out.

[-] Etterra@discuss.online 7 points 1 month ago

Meanwhile, smart people: I sure do love Libre Office.

[-] Laser@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago

If smart people love libreoffice, then I must be dumb. Working with it always seems weird and I never like it.

Fortunately, I can use LaTeX for work; it is far from without issues but while being arcane sometimes (especially when tables are involved), it never really upsets me and the result looks very good. I can say neither for libreoffice or MS office. But at least the former doesn't charge for the experience.

I hope typst gains more traction; it seems really intuitive compared to TeX and you don't necessarily need a macro package. And while it doesn't produce the quality of TeX-based systems yet, it is already good. Then again, Knuth's goal first and foremost goal was quality (and it shows); the system just had to be usable by him.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Libre Office.

Honestly - and flame away - I hate the name. I hate saying it. It's the 'moist' of borrowed words. Leeeeeeeebr. And I'm a Canadian who did French up to university-level conversational "explain something for 20 min" French (from a gorgeous caribbean dynamo teacher, but I justif--uh, digress) so I know how to say the word and what it means.

And I still hate it. I'm a horrible person -- even before I continued French study because the prof was so engaging and energetic and brightened every room and every day and made French interesting just on inclusion.

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[-] RickyWars@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

For existing customers, the price hike won't be kicking in until plan renewal, and there are options to downgrade the plan. Those who want to avoid using AI can downgrade the plan to the "Classic" or "Basic" Microsoft 365 plans.

Thankfully we can roll back to the "Classic Family Plan" without the AI features. But annoying that they automatically switched plans and I had to switch back. If I didn't see this article I'd be up for a big price hike when it renewed.

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

But annoying that they automatically switched plans and I had to switch back.

Should be illegal.

[-] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

Everyone experiencing this should be thinking "man, I gotta ditch Microsoft before they try to fuck me again"

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[-] trk@aussie.zone 5 points 1 month ago

I'm so glad I work in an industry where I can get away with using Libre Office.

[-] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

"You remember that llm we spend billions of dollars on, that nobody asked for? Well we're done half baking it into all our apps and now we're almost doubling our prices to help pay for it all."

The logic of the utterly deranged...

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

This is like adding ESPN to the live TV package.

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[-] Wooki@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

worlds most over glorified over priced office website that runs like a slug

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

Subscriptions like these have always been a scam.

[-] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago

Oh shit maybe we'll see someone companies switch to an alternative instead of paying microshit more money

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[-] Gurglegag@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I’ve had nothing but issues administrating Office 365. A price hike like this is incentivizing me to push other products like Google workspace.

Nice parts are definitely user email tools and some of the audit tools, but I keep finding myself in scenarios where I get error 500s on the server side when I pop open dev tools and it’s like I don’t want to tell my users that they’re SOL but they sort of are if I can’t resolve some error on Microsoft’s o365 servers. Microsoft likes to ask what I did to fix the case if I fix it before they do and I just laugh and not rely to those. They can pay me extra for that or hire me if they want that info.

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