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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Wit@kbin.social to c/kbinMeta@kbin.social

Since on most fediverse instances you don't automatically upvote your own comment, do you do it manually? What's considered "proper etiquette"? Because on Reddit your stuff is self-upvoted automatically, while in YT comment sections comments with 1 like sometimes get called out for liking their own comment. Do we have an established standard here yet, and if not what are your thoughts on it?

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[-] jon@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

No, I have people to do that for me.

[-] Wit@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Check your privilege, some of us can't afford having others upvote our comments, we have to upvote our own smh

[-] Jiberish@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

Welcome to Kbin where everything is made up and the points don't matter (except to everyone in this comment section apparently).

[-] MoogleMaestro@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

sigh

Take my meaningless vote. You've earned it!

[-] aeternum@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

hey! I live for upvotes! they're the only thing i have in my life /s

[-] blivet@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I upvote everything I post. If I didn’t like it, I wouldn’t have submitted it.

[-] Arotrios@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Agreed. I also boost, as it adds visibility on instances that look at those and not upvotes.

Plus, boosting and upvoting create indexes for me to easily access my content later via my profile (boosts show up under the boosts tab, upvotes show up under favorites).

I also try to upvote and boost a fair number of the comments that reply to my threads as appreciation for the contribution.

[-] livus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

That's a good point.

[-] density@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

If its wrong to upvote own posts, then it should be disabled.

If there are different policies re auto own voting then over time users from instances which do it will end up with higher scores over time. all else being equal.

[-] effingjoe@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I like and boost my posts for visibility but my comments I don't. PSA: you can see who upvotes and downvotes any post or comment by selecting "more" and then "activity". I can see you upvoted your post, for example. As far as I am aware, this is a kbin thing-- lemmy does not make this visible to the user.

And I think it might as well implement an automatic upvote for everything, like reddit and lemmy (or lemmy.world, anyway).

[-] livus@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah I figure the fact everyone can see us doing it means it's okay to do.

When I was first here I was just trying to get people to stay so I was boosting and upvoting everyone's content like crazy, including stuff I contributed. Lately I mostly post to a tiny community (@worldwithoutus) so I'm always hoping for visibility.

[-] Voyajer@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

No, it's kind of weird we can upvote our own stuff anyway. We wouldn't submit it if we didn't support what we were saying anyway.

[-] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Upvoting your own material is a Michael Scott thing to do.

[-] StaggersAndJags@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

That's why kbin should self-upvote by default. If only Michael Scotts are upvoting their own comments, then the Michael Scotts have an inherent advantage in comment visibility.

We're going to hear more from the Michael Scotts and less from the humble Pams.

[-] kglitch@kglitch.social 2 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Until then, upvote yourself!

[-] IncognitoErgoSum@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Upvoting your own material is a Michael Scott thing to do.\

- PabloDiscobar

- Michael Scott

[-] Teal@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Some people may be superstitious about leaving it at zero. Since I'm only a little stitious I leave it alone. :)

[-] wagesj45@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago
[-] Catch42@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

For posts I upvote and boost. For comments I upvote, unless the person I'm responding to hasn't upvoted their own comment.

[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

No. I already hated people doing that on Youtube. I think its a silly and self centered thing to do.

[-] savedr@forum.fail 4 points 1 year ago

See, I always thought that felt really weird when Reddit did it, I never liked that. To me, if a post has zero up votes, that should mean either no one has seen it yet or that everyone who has feels entirely neutral about it, it's right at 0. If there's at least 1 upvote, that should mean at least 1 person found it good, and if it's negative, at least 1 person thinks it isn't. To start that total at 1 instead of 0 feels arbitrary and like designed to be less intuitive, not more.

Like someone said above (but making the opposite point from them here), if you didn't like it, why would you post it? You having posted or commented at all is evidence you meant to, have you ever commented or posted by accident? There's intentionality there by default, I don't see why it needs the auto self-upvote to start with.

[-] Pamasich@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I don't do it, I don't see the point to doing it except to mirror Reddit, which shouldn't be our goal imo.

[-] palordrolap@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Taking off that auto-upvote and starting from 0 was - mostly humorously - referred to as "Reddit hard mode" back in the day.

That was at least partially because it's far more likely that someone else chose to downvote rather than the commenter / OP, and that meant the content was tainted with suspicion from the outset.

But, if everyone starts out in hard mode it's not really hard mode any more.

Also, we can see both favourites and reductions (up- and downvotes) here* so it's slightly clearer what's going on even if someone chooses to rate their own content.

ETA: kbin ego mode: favourite your own stuff; kbin hard mode: reduce it.

* kbin.social. Perhaps not so at other Fediverse places.

[-] Prouvaire@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I don't upvote or boost anything I create (if I have it would have been by accident or as a test) - it feels weird to do so.

There is an argument for threads/comments to start with 1 upvote, ala reddit, in order to "reward" people for contributing by adding to their rep, even if no other people upvote them further. On the other hand, if for instance total rep were to be capped (there's been some discussion of doing this as it has various benefits), and that cap is relatively low, then maybe all contributions should start off at 0 in order to prevent people from maximising their karma by spamming.

[-] savedr@forum.fail 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, and like, if all you have to do is post a bunch with auto upvotes on to get rep, is that rep real? Isn't it a lot more real if other people have upvoted your stuff on purpose, not you? As valuable as that even is anyway

[-] Nougat@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Not usually. There've been a couple where the conventional wisdom had people downvoting, because butthurt children, and I self-upvoted as a way to suggest that, "Hey, there's something of value here if you don't knee jerk so much." Seems to have worked, if only marginally.

[-] shepherd@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If I think my comment is more relevant than all the others I see, I even boost myself lmao. No shame hahah.

When I'm contributing to the conversation, I upvote myself. When I'm no longer contributing to the original discussion (like I'm talking with someone and we get somewhat off topic), I don't upvote myself anymore.

It's more about what order a new person should see stuff!

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