The US is actually going to implement a nationwide abortion ban and the measures for how it's gonna be handled are already in the works (lemmy.world)

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The US is actually going to implement a nationwide abortion ban and the measures for how it's going to be handled are already in the works. This bill, which I link to here: https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/7/text , seems ok at first glance and only seems to want to implement nationwide healthcare centers for women. But when you actually look at what these Pro Women's Healthcare Centers are and mean to offer, it becomes really clear what's going on.

On the first page of the PDF or booklet that appear when you search for the healthcare centers it is clear that they are supported by pro-life organisations and hold extreme pro-life values. And when you read the (very short) booklet it states their values and services that are to be provided. Among them is a requirement for "Abortion Pill Reversal" and encouragement for "Sterilization Reversal". The last page clearly states their values, where among them it states that:

"Abortion is not women's healthcare, because of the damage it causes to women's physical and emotional health and the destruction of unborn life, many of whom are females. Abortion is usually something women turn to when they feel they do not have another choice. This is a tragedy and the opposite of choice and empowerment."

And it goes on to list similiar values. The bill to implement these healthcare centers states that:

"That the House of Representatives—

(1) expresses its support for women nationwide to have access to comprehensive, convenient, compassionate, life-affirming, high-quality health care; and

(2) recognizes the high standards established by Pro Women’s Healthcare Centers consortium as standards worth implementing nationwide."

This means that the values that these Pro Women’s Healthcare Centers have are to be set as standards nationwide.

A link to the PDF/booklet about the Pro Women’s Healthcare Centers (PWHC): https://nacn-usa.org/wp-content/uploads/PWHC-Booklet.pdf

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[-] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I drove to a friend to Kansas last year for an abortion. I still don't know if it was mine. Either way if those services weren't available then she would have suffered tremendously by having that baby. As badly as I wanted that baby to be mine it didn't matter in the end because it's her body not mine. It's a simple as that and fuck anyone that wants to take those rights away

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 1 points 2 months ago

"Pro Women’s Healthcare"

😡😡😡😡😡😡

Fucking propagandists

[-] scarilog@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Something straight out of 1984. When I read the novel in high school I was naive enough to believe it would never be reflected irl to quite this degree.

[-] rekabis@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago

The more accurate analogy would be The Handmaiden’s Tale.

Absolutely terrifying. And once the underground railroads fire up to bring women refugees to Canada, I’ll do my part to help.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They aren't really off with 1984. "The ministry of peace" being the department of war and all that. Pro Women's health actually being anti women's health.

It's so gross...

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Ok states rights crowd, fuck around and find out with my states constitutional protection of abortion.

[-] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 0 points 2 months ago

yes. elections have consequences. republicans haven't been coy about wanted to outlaw abortion nationwide at the federal level. enough democrats didn't vote in the last election (mostly young people for whom these bans will effect the most, and cause the most harm) to ensure republicans now control ever branch of united states government, the legislative (both house of congress), the judicial (doj and the supreme court), and executive (the presidency). that's a clean sweep, and a wide pipe for the monsters to do just about anything they want to. congratulations.

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If only liberals had self reflection to learn why the lost the election in a landslide. Nope. Blame voters!

Edit:

no primary
biden promised to be a one term president and lied, he’s senile and demented
lied about inflation
two new forever wars
funded a genocide
awful covid policy of “let it rip!”
last minute push of no votes Kamala instead of holding a fucking primary to start with
only platform is “we’re not trump”
real platform is “nothing will fundamentally change”
voting third party is not supporting fascism you stupid fucking liberals
continue to refuse to change your stupid ways and continue to lose elections
democrats didn’t do shit to stop fascism because fascism doesn’t threaten capital and they only exist to stop the left
democrats lose on purpose so they can cynically fundraise off it
keep voting blue no matter who and keep fucking losing
blue MAGA be whining crying and carrying on that if you didn’t vote for fascist genocider joe that you’re a fascist! Grow up and read history you fucking babies.
insults voters rather than listens to their concerns
assumes everyone who didn’t vote for biden voted for trump which is logically false
zero class consciousness and everything boils down to losing identity politics
nobody cares that Kamala was black and indian that’s not a reason to vote for or against anyone
nobody cares that the fighter pilot dropping bombs on brown people abroad is a black gay Jewish trans man, we want the bombing to stop!
democrats had fifty fucking years to make roe v Wade law but instead cynically fundraised off it
biden fucked over labor

Keep fucking crying. Never self reflect that it’s YOUR FAULT for not pushing the dems left. Never self reflect that the democrats DID THIS TO THEMSELVES.

[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

I agree with most of what you said, but voting 3rd party in the general election really is mathematically equivalent to simply not voting.
And it's worse when it's voting 3rd party in place of voting for the least bad of the two electable parties, then (just like not voting) it's mathematically equivalent to voting for the most bad of the two parties.

This is not an opinion. It's how the elections are structured, and I would very much prefer a better structure, but we don't have it and have to work with what we have.

Even in the primaries, voting 3rd party usually simply means being unable to influence the major parties - but in this case you are absolutely correct that the "primaries" were a farce.

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago

Oh for fucks sake. Electoral college. I’m in a solid blue state it doesn’t fucking matter who the fuck I vote for or if I vote at all. But even if I was in a swing state there’s no way in fucking hell id be voting for a genocider and liberals need to get that through their thick fucking minds instead of smugly admonishing and tsk tsking everyone with fucking morals who refused to vote for that piece of shit.

This is NOT the way to win elections and blue MAGA is too high on their own supply to understand why they fucking lost in a landslide.

DEMOCRATS ARE TO BLAME FOR TRUMPS RETURN. RUN A COMPETITIVE PRIMARY AND THIS WOULD OF NEVER HAPPENED.

also in my state I can vote for whoever I want in a primary. I can vote in the democrat or Republican or progressive (state party) primary. Another +1 for Vermonts pro democracy policies.

[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I was writing for the perspective of someone whose votes mattered at all to begin with (which isn't myself). Indeed the electoral college is its own catastrophe and needs to die.

Anyway, yes, the DNC is to blame. I agree.
However a part of the mechanism that helped trump win is opinions like "even if I was in a swing state there’s no way in fucking hell id be voting for a genocider" - I get it, I really do, but if I were in a swing state myself there's no way I'd help the rapist convict even worse genocider win. There were no good options this election, but there were orders of magnitude differences between levels of bad.

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago

I’m not voting for a genocider period. I voted third party which is a vote against genocide. I have zero regrets and am enjoying the liberal fucking meltdown over it.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Which 3rd party did you vote for that was against genocide?

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago

I voted for de la Cruz, party for socialism and liberation.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I've got some bad news for you...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Socialism_and_Liberation

Staunch support for the PRC and DPRK, which are pretty complicit in genocide. You voted for as much of a "genocider" as Kamala is, and you got a literally "finish the job" actual genocide supporter instead.

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