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How to Keep Tabs on ICE Agents Who May Be Surveilling Your Neighborhood (www.teenvogue.com)
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[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 194 points 3 days ago

Holy shit. Teen Vogue FTW.

They're not even fucking around about it, either.

After we began offering trainings in immigrant neighborhood parking lots and circulating Spanish-language videos with tips for how to spot ICE agents, our volunteers came into contact with federal agents. After a volunteer confirmed an officer’s identity, they would alert neighbors to the agent’s presence, and our dispatch team would send a text message to our contacts in the area. ICE agents almost never carry judicial warrants giving them the authority to enter private homes or businesses without permission, so they often wait to make an arrest when the person they’re looking for leaves their home or car. And in every case we worked on, when the agents realized they were being watched, they abandoned their stakeout.

[-] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 22 points 3 days ago

Teen Vogue has been woke since Bush Jr. was in office, IIRC. I say this as a complement!

[-] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Teen Vogue have always been like this, suprisingly.

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 56 points 3 days ago

Incredible article, thank you so much for sharing

I know no one wants to interact with Instagram but the embedded Instagram videos were excellent. I wish there had been a bit more of the actual content on how to identify ice in the article though

[-] DABDA@lemm.ee 27 points 3 days ago

Not to further shit on their good intentions, but this really pisses me off too:

We have listed some tips for anyone who wants to start a hotline, neighborhood watch, or cash-assistance program in our organizing playbook.

But if you actually intend on viewing that "organizing playbook" they have a mandatory form asking for:

  • First and last name
  • Mobile phone number
  • Opt-in for email and/or phone updates

And requiring:

  • Email address
  • Zip code
  • Latino YES/NO?

For someone interested in wanting to help, but not wanting to be consolidated into another helpful list of combatants or targets a subpoena away, this seems needlessly restrictive.

[-] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The playbook is in the inbox of Homerstimpson@mailinator.com, feel free to login and download.

Collecting your name, email, number, etc is how they build the network that has given them some successes so far. I get where you're coming from, though.

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Thats a consideration I hadn't thought of, but yeah that seems like a potential oversight on their part

[-] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

As long as you use an email that's not tied to you and provide fake info, there's no/minimal risk. Stupid as shit that we have to go to these lengths, but here wa are...

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 25 points 3 days ago

Maybe someone could re-upload them on Loops or Peertube to share here?

[-] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago

Fucking teen vogue

[-] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 18 points 3 days ago

Teen Vogue has been woke since Bush Jr. was in office, IIRC. I say this as a complement!

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 days ago

Well, it's not going to be Bloomberg writing these

[-] 800XL@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

You took the exact words outta my mouth.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 56 points 3 days ago

Pretty decent article. Hat's off to Teen Vogue.

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 48 points 3 days ago

Teen Vogue is off the charts badass, and has been for a bit.

[-] alcibiades@lemm.ee 25 points 3 days ago

A Mexican joint near me just got raided by ICE. My city is nowhere close to the border and has a small migrant community. Defo a bad sign, I didn’t even know ICE existed where I live.

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 days ago

Related:

https://ossiana.substack.com/p/what-to-do-when-you-see-ice-agents

[-] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 days ago

Is it legal to share the faces and names of ICE agents?

Can we just compile a massive database of every agent?

[-] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

At the moment who the fuck cares about it being legal? When the law is unjust it must be broken.

[-] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago

Its easier to convince people to do something when its still legal.

[-] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 0 points 3 days ago

Yikes.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 days ago

What an odd reaction to a very obvious fact...

[-] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 0 points 3 days ago

It's just shit and worrying that people care more about legality than doing the right thing. If only we didn't live in a culture that conditioned them so.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 14 points 3 days ago

IANAL but probably not legal due to them having rights to their photos and you can be sure they will find some legal way to shut you down.

However an face recognition api trained with such photos might fly under the radar or even be legal.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 days ago

IANAL

I continue to absolutely ADORE the fact that the abbreviation for "I am not a lawyer" sounds like an Isaac Asimov porn parody 😁🥰

[-] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If they're acting in a capacity for the government, they're public servants with no expectations of privacy. Also, if you're in public, there's no expectations of privacy as is.

Take their photos and film them. Let them know they're being watched and their actions will be scrutinized. Authoritarians are less likely to escalate if there's evidence and they think there will be some kind of consequences. And they just have to wonder if some Mario will go green some day.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago

Also not a lawyer, but it's my understanding no one has an expectation of privacy in a public place. There isn't an exception for officers of the law. I'm reasonably confident there's no legal basis to block you from taking pictures or videos of them. They could harass you for doing so, but I don't think they can legally stop you.

[-] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 days ago

legal due to them having rights to their photos

Well, this is the USA with First amendment rights. I heard that in Europe, there are more privacy protections, but in the US, people commonly take pictures of people in public.

There are cases of police brutality in the US where people recorded videos of the entire thing, and it was spread online, and it was mostly not taken down. I'm not sure if they actually have "right" to their photos, as Europeans do.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago

In Europe you can photograph/film public scenes legally and if it happens that a person is recognizable on it they have only limited recourse, but specifically taking photos of faces and publishing them is another matter. I imagine this isn't so different in the US.

[-] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 days ago

Facial recognition software is super ubiquitous. Hosting some VMs with some plugin for this should be trivial.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Ah, GeStaPo watch!

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Does anybody know any good resources to get involved in watches against ICE like the article suggests?

I looked for it for my town and only found the address for the local ICE headquarters.

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