Proton CEO Andy Yen Interview (www.compiler.news)

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[-] Limonene@lemmy.world 76 points 3 days ago

The article is from December, so the interviewer couldn't have asked about their CEO's recent betrayal: https://insights.priva.cat/p/does-proton-still-stand-for-anything

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[-] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Unless I'm missing something, didn't Yen just praise 🍄's pick for antitrust AG? I forget her name, but her Wikipedia page didn't make her sound all that great, so I'm not sure what exactly he was praising her for. If that's all it is (and it might not be!) that hardly sounds like a betrayal.

EDIT: I was missing something! See this.

[-] Rogue@feddit.uk 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Praising the pick wasn't so bad. The issues really arose when he was called out on it and chose to use Proton's official accounts to affirm his view and went on to state:

the republican party is now the party of the people and most likely to crack down on big tech
The democrats have effectively betrayed their voters in favour of corporate donations
This was Proton's official stance

It was insane boot licking and incredibly poorly thought through. It's fine for him to have an opinion but completely inappropriate to use their official accounts to spew such drivel and to state it was the official stance should have resulted in him being fired for damaging their reputation.

edit: I was asked to provide sources so please find them here: https://feddit.uk/post/23386970/14888441

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 1 day ago

the republican party is now the party of the people and most likely to crack down on big tech

yes🤡

The democrats have effectively betrayed their voters in favour of corporate donations

yes🐸

[-] Rogue@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago

the republican party is now the party of the people and most likely to crack down on big tech

yes🤡

Why do you think that?

[-] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Ah, well that's not so good then . . . 🙁

[-] Tramort@programming.dev 7 points 3 days ago

This guy is a fascist, and nobody should be using proton.

[-] MidWestKhagan@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Ffs it was my favorite. I just organized all my email into specific folders and every mail I get being automatically sorted into those folders so my main inbox is clean. Is there any alternative to proton with similar features?

[+] simple@lemm.ee -15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Making a dumb tweet doesn't make you a fascist and doesn't invalidate the years of hard work people put into a non-profit swiss company, you should get over yourself.

[-] yozul@beehaw.org 7 points 2 days ago

No, a single dumb tweet doesn't make you a fascist. Running a company that people are supposed to trust with their privacy and security and doubling down on praise for a political party that has been using state surveillance to hunt down people for choices they make with their own bodies as the party of the "little guy" does mean I'm never going to trust you again, though.

[-] Tramort@programming.dev 26 points 3 days ago

No indeed.

But supporting an administration (in any medium) whose inauguration included a Nazi salute does, in fact, make you a fascist.

And no: it doesn't matter if you previously did something good.

It's really not that complicated,

[-] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago

Tbf, the nazi salute happened after he did that tweet

[-] Tramort@programming.dev 15 points 3 days ago

Fair point. But no adult who is paying attention needed the salute to understand the contempt that Musk has for the rule of law.

He marshalled an attack on the capital. No non-fascist does that.

[-] transitinoir@slrpnk.net -1 points 3 days ago

He marshalled an attack on the capital. No non-fascist does that.

uh, you sure about that?

[-] Tramort@programming.dev 8 points 3 days ago

Yes. We all saw it on national television.

Then he pardoned the offenders.

GTFO with your stupid pretend skepticism and gas lighting.

[-] transitinoir@slrpnk.net -4 points 3 days ago

The question was whether you are sure that only fascists marsh on capitals

[-] Tramort@programming.dev 9 points 3 days ago

Martin Luther King marched on the capital.

But if you think I'm using a definition that makes Martin Luther King a fascist then I'm going to conclude you're not discussing the issue in good faith.

[-] Bldck@beehaw.org 6 points 3 days ago

I’m reminded of this Nate Silver quote from the election:

Democrats, however — and here, I’m not referring so much Silver Bulletin subscribers but in the broader universe online — often get angry with you when you only halfway agree with them. And I really think this difference in personality profiles tells you a little something about why Trump won: Trump was happy to take on all comers, whereas with Democrats, disagreement on any hot-button topic (say, COVID school closures or Biden’s age) will have you cast out as a heretic. That’s not a good way to build a majority, and now Democrats no longer have one.

[-] 0x520@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago

Not defending democrats at all, but didn't Nate Silvers polling engine consistently favor democrats polls? I would say Democrats are loosing because they have created an echo-chamber (of which Nate is a part), in which alternatives are not allowed even if those alternatives are; we shouldn't do a genocide in gaza or hey, actually the most accurate polls have consistently showed Harris losing. If they could actually listen to what their constituents want for once, maybe they could have a majority, but also if Nate Silver could stop inflating their polling they could get a realistic idea of how they are doing with their strategy of telling the proles how they should feel about the perfect, infallible Biden econony and potebtially readjust that strategy or run more popular candidates. 🤷🤷🤷

[-] Bldck@beehaw.org 0 points 2 days ago

In 2024, Nate’s model accurately predicted the exact electoral map.

He doesn’t do any polling. He aggregates other pollsters, weights it based on past performance and then uses other factors (he calls them fundamentals) to produce an outcome. And I think it’s misguided to suggest that Democratic leadership is looking at Nate’s polls to reinforce their own positions.

Here’s a quote from a column he wrote for the NYT

It may even feel as though we’re Ping-Ponging between radically different futures, never quite certain what lies around the bend. Yet on the whole in 2024, polling did not experience much of a miss and had a reasonable year. Ms. Harris led by only one point in my final national polling average. And Donald Trump led in five of seven key states, albeit incredibly narrowly. The final polling averages were correct in 48 of 50 states. The final Times/Siena national poll (including third-party candidates) had Mr. Trump one point ahead. There was plenty of data to support a Trump win.

Remember that the Biden campaign had an internal poll showing Trump winning ~48 states in a total landslide victory, but they maintained that Biden was the best candidate.

[-] 0x520@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago

I am aware that he aggregates polls. But actually 2024 his model did so poorly that he said he is retiring that model(good riddance). His polling has been off since he predicted Obama was going to win and I am not sure why anybody needed a model for that outcome.

[-] ShortN0te@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

The tweet he commented on was indeed a nice idea, but a CEO should have more foresight that the things Trump stated in it would not be true. When you look at it now, it looks like it was more or less a threat that led to a closer relationship between "tech bros" and the current administration instead of the "take down" of them.

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