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[-] land@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 month ago

Can someone explain this? Keyloggers???

[-] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 month ago

I wouldn’t necessarily call it key logging but all these services are going to store anything you search.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

"keystroke patterns or rhythms"???

Fuckin' hell.

[-] Robin@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Playing devil's advocate here. Mouse movements and key presses have been commonly used as bot detection method for a decade now. Like that captcha service that is just a checkbox, that's part of how they guessed that you are not a bot.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Yeah, no. I mean yes - that's true, and yes it's a way to detect bots, and no I'm not going to allow that wherever possible.

[-] zerozaku@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Damn it we need Private-R1 now

[-] eggymachus@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago
[-] land@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago
[-] Kornblumenratte@feddit.org -2 points 1 month ago

Of course – if the AI is supposed to give you an answer, they have to know what you are writing, so yes, logging your keystrokes is quintessential for every online service you interact with. You cannot get an answer without asking.

The wording is strange, though, and I'm not sure whether this ToS allows them to collect and process what you are typing while using their service, or all your typing.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 28 points 1 month ago

logging your keystrokes is quintessential for every online service you interact with

No, it is not. Services expect the "complete" payload, whether a prompt, a text message, or whatever, it doesn't matter if you typed it, if you copy-pasted it or something else. None of them need to analyze stuff you've typed, deleted and never sent.

[-] lapping6596@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Generally yes, but there is one use case where every key stroke is often recorded and analyzed, a search bar. If it's trying to fill out suggestions as you type, every keystroke is recorded as you go.

[-] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 month ago

Keystroke patterns and rhythms is above and beyond, though. That's not remotely necessary and the kind of thing that can only be used to track an individual across multiple platforms and attempts at anonymity. I don't know how effective it is at that, but that is the sole purpose unless maybe they are training a better autocorrect tool and think that would be helpful.

At any rate, that's the point where I noped out. They are completely honest about putting every effort into identifying users and associating them with real identity. Such a system would be quite capable of de-anonymizing marketing profiles, health data, etc. by correlating vast amounts of data.

[-] Tramort@programming.dev 8 points 1 month ago

Quintessential does not mean "really essential", and does not make sense in this context.

You can't really be quintessential "for" something; only quintessential of something.

[-] Linearity@infosec.pub 9 points 1 month ago

Is there a tech focused summary on everything about DeepSeek and the situation with OpenAI?

[-] kiagam@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

https://youtu.be/Nl7aCUsWykg

Fireship maybe? It is not that complicated, they just make a good cheap AI and big tech is panicking because they can only make good expensive AI

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