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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by Tekkip20@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

I'd like to move off from the shackles of the Google menace and transferring my Gmail related accounts over including steam but I'd like some solid advice of any well regarded and better alternatives (including open source if that is possible)

I did search but was unsure of what was best as I did hear some shoddy things about Proton.

Do you know anything that could be the "aegis 2fa" of email providers?

Thank you and have a good day/night.

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[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

A lot of people who are moving away from Proton due to the recent controversy are switching to Tuta

[-] Sepix@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago

This is the way

[-] dkc@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Email, as a suite of protocols, was designed long before we thought deeply about encryption. In 2025, you can count on email encryption in transit and encryption at rest from providers, although try to verify it. E2EE like Proton and Tuta offer is severely limited. I was recently looking up if Proton and Tuta were even compatible with each other in terms of PGP encryption. I could find no confirmation that they are.

If you use Proton and you email another Proton user it’ll be encrypted with PGP. Otherwise your email is sent unencrypted, and email you receive is unencrypted, then Proton stores it on their server encrypted. All of this paragraph applies to Tuta as well.

You can get most of the same benefits from other providers by downloading your email locally and deleting off the mail servers. The benefit of regular email servers is open standards and compatibility with your preferred mail and calendar applications.

I use Fastmail and love it. I know many people mention using burner addressed with a custom domain, but I prefer generating a burner email with a FastMail domain for signing up to websites. Using my own domain would make it easier to identify me.

[-] zkfcfbzr@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I'll vouch for Proton. The recent controversy wasn't great but it's also a single negative incident for a company that has otherwise had a pretty stellar track record. I recommend reading his responses in the reddit AMA he did after the incident. I still think he's a fool, but I don't think he's fascist or that there's any reason at all to doubt the privacy, security, or direction of the company, which is both partly open source and regularly audited.

I've been using ProtonMail for probably around 7 years now and it's been great.

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Lots of Lemmy is reactionary. I mean, they're on lemmy, so they're generally going to be the quickest to jump ship on anything. I don't think his takes are bad either tbh - They've still proven themselves to be quite reliable.

[-] safesyrup@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago

His takes aren‘t bad either? Don‘t be silly

[-] zkfcfbzr@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I still thinks his takes were bad and tone-deaf. I get that he liked a certain appointee Trump made that's relevant to his industry. And, knowing nothing at all about the appointee myself, they may in actuality be a good pick. But he went well beyond praising the appointee, to praising Trump and Republicans in general - albeit for the specific narrow topic of "reigning in big tech".

While his takes were arguably valid given recent history (I'd still say not), it was completely tone deaf to the reality of what the present-day Republican party and Trump mean for America, and especially ignorant of the obvious buddying-up big tech has done with Trump in the past few months.

I think if he narrowly aimed his praise at the appointee herself, without then making sweeping generalities about Republicans vs. Democrats, that nobody here would even be aware of who he is, let alone what he said.

I do think the internet in general tends to be very reactionary - I don't think Lemmy is any more reactionary than, say, reddit, but both are very reactionary. Anyone who jumps ship over this guy's comment will just end up jumping ship again from whatever their new ship is, after that company makes some move they see as imperfect in a few months or years. No company is perfect. Proton is at least great.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

Pick a provider which lets you bring your own domain and you’ll never need to change address again if you move providers.

[-] Greg@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

Plus you can give out really stupid email addresses that work

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