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Honestly every game I pre ordered I have been happy with especially bg3.
In general I agree but the transparency level shown by the Cities Skylines 2 team has me rethinking this.
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every game has a built in trial these days. trial the game for up to 2 hours in the first 2 weeks of buying it, and if you don't like it, steam refund it.
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We used to demand trials before buying before
We did? When exactly? Not when I was buying games for my consoles on the flea market and not when I got Rollercoaster Tycoon from a cereal box.
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Thank you for the reminder. I will promptly pay attention to it, and yet, have 0 impact on the world as this issue is a big numbers problem and we're the small numbers.
That's a defeatist attitude. There are a lot more of us then you can fathom. If you're going to make assumptions on data you don't have, why not have hope?
There are a lot more of us then you can fathom.
Where? Here we have 1.2k potential users. The video does have 24k views. For big studios like Bethesda that's a rounding error! Skyrim for example sold 3.4 million physical copies alone at launch. I wouldn't be surprised if Starfield already has sold that many pre-orders.
I mean it's good to have such a discussion, but there are 10's of millions of people who regularely buy PC/console games. It would be silly to expect that such a huge amount of people could be reached easily by grassroot discussions of a few thousand people.
After all this whole pre-order discussion is by no means new. I've seen such for at least 5-10 years but in the end, pre-orders still happen on a gigantic scale.
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There is no buying games anymore. You rent them now until the servers are down or Microsoft makes a new windows version.
The exception to this is GOG -- They, and publishers/developers that release on their store, should be supported whenever possible.
Not perfect, but miles above the alternatives.
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I generally don't preorder games because I like to be able to watch streamers play a bit of the game to get an idea of what the game is like and if it's any good. However, I will preorder Nintendo games since their first party games are almost always good. I think the only first party Nintendo game I've ever played that I was disappointed with in the past 20 years was Skyward Sword.
I usually only pre order when I'm 99% sure I'm gonna love the game and it's made by a company with a good reputation of having games be good at launch Ex: Zelda tears of the kingdom
I am going to keep pre-ordering games on solid platforms like Steam. The pros of pre-ordering tend to outweigh the cons. But people here, and on Reddit, love to exaggerate the cons of pre-ordering. As long as I can painlessly return a game if it turns out to be a stinker, it's not a big deal.
What are the pros of per-ordering? I can't think of any other than promotional DLC that is normally worthless.
If you buy at shops like Green Man Gaming you can save $12 or so at launch.
Drawback is no refund if it's shit
There are also the pre-order bonuses, like cool skins or early access. Caveat emptor on the actual value proposition.
You mean access to locked content unless you pay sight unseen. Hardly a benefit.
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What about pre-ordering for pickup? That way you have a guaranteed copy, but don't have to put anything down.
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