Racism, that answer is racism... No need to over analyse this

That's the great thing about racism, it doesn't have to make sense!

Racism. Next question.

Racism.

That's i t.

That's literally it.

someone called my Ukrainian coworker a wetback.

i just... want you to think about that and what it says about how dumb bigots are

The answer to your question is right in your question.

"Logic"

Cold, hard logic no longer applies. Reality is manufactured now. Pointing out a logical fallacy doesn't change anyone's mind if that logic doesn't coincide with their ideology.

Short answer is "propaganda". News agencies against immigration will pretty regularly swap between "illegal immigrants", "immigrants", and as if they're practically interchangable to build whatever narrative they want, and also to slowly build an association between 'people of ', 'being a drain on society', and 'being here illegally' to get the average person to side with them.

Assuming that all non-white people are illegal immigrants is called "racism". (Stupid too, but mostly racism)

Id say about 90% of folks that push for this dont understand how our immigration/asylum system works other 10% would be hateful racist. In my experience, if you reply with yeah this is a problem we need to change how it works so people arent forced to do illegal things, they will tell they just dont want them here. Its not about coming in illegally its about non white people coming here. We really need reform. Your friend is on very sad and dangerous path.

Your first mistake is assuming logic has anything to do with it.

those people are looking for something to hate. This is also why those kind of people are deadend for humanity. If they get rid of all immigrants they will find some other group to hate and after getting rid of those they will find another again until there are only 2 people that want to kill eachother, if you excuse the hyperbole.

Oh i have no doubt they tell native Americans to go back where they came from. Especially folks like Tejanos who speak Spanish and used to be Mexican.

It is ethnic cleansing, pure and simple.

"Shouldn't that logic apply to..."

One must remember that people aren't logical. They're hypocritical and willfully ignorant.

Because we have an idiot problem over here right now. The person you know is an idiot.

Yesterday, at a park, I saw some Patriot Front (a neonazi group) posters on two adjacent polls. One was something about the "American spirit" descending from "European blood". The other said "America is for Americans". Without a hint of irony.

As if Europeans didn't immigrate but just popped out of the ground here, or something?

Racists aren't known for their critical thinking skills.

A lot of people are influenced by alt-right news (Fox News, Newsmax, OAN) who keep repeating the false claim that undocumented immigrants are mostly gangsters and violent criminals. In truth, undocumented immigrants are way less likely to commit a violent crime than an average American citizen.

Trump said, regarding the first deportation flight:

Three hundred people sitting on a plane. Every single one of them is either a murderer, a drug lord, a kingpin, the head of the mob, or a gang member

Yet none of those deportees had any criminal conviction in either country (according to Newsweek, a slightly-right news source).

For a moment I was like wtf...then I saw this was on no stupid questions

Well by definition if you are born in someplace you are a native of that place.

the logic is that they think white people deserve the land more. Its plain old racism.

Because that would involve a level of logic and critical thinking well beyond them.

The oligarch owned media/government/education system wants the working class fighting each other rather than going after the real parasites (the oligarchs). They use 24/7 cradle to grave propaganda to convince people that the threat comes from "others" instead of the bosses. Easier to get people to punch down.

The far-right doesn't care about logic, it's all just good ol' racism.

They don't care. They just want to get rid of brown people. "Illegal Immigration" is just the smoke screen.

First, think about how smart the "average" person is.

Next, think about how half of the people in the world are dumber than that and you start to get an idea.

Send musk back please.

Yeah these guys are radicalized extremists.

You can't tell if someone is "legally" in the U.S. by looking at them. You can't tell if someone was born here by looking at them. You would think racism would be separate from the immigration panic because there is no way to tie looks to immigration status, but instead the logic is thrown out the window.

My friend told me once "when a guys life goes to shit he looks for someone to blame.". These particular guys have blamed some nebulous idea of "illegal immigrants" instead of women, or communists or whatever.

Whats worse is that the current administration has stated that native Americans are not US citizens and indigenous communities are being hassled hard by ICE right now. I don't know what their plan for native people eventually is but it won't be good and it won't be to just leave them out of this.

Will yes but... Muh DEI and eggs....

See, back then, there used to be this thing called 'an education' that every functioning member of society was expected to have. Basic reasoning skills, the ability to reason and all that - it was meant to separate sapient species from animals and solve problems by means of discourse, debate and, worked well for a while. Then this group started shouting really loud, and the other group thought not to engage in uncivilised behaviour, hoping good sense would prevail and restrain what was largely seen as an anomaly. Only the shouting didn't end. Instead it turned to screaming, then hollering, and started to drown out reason and logic and everything we had developed as a society up til that point. And it worked, so more people started screaming their basal instincts, until the voice of reason was eventually drowned out, then silenced. And here we are today.

Never try to underestimate stupid. You'll fail every time.

Oligarchs are seizing control of the country. Wages have been declining for decades; there was a time when you could buy a house with just a few years' salary. As the rich become richer and the poor become poorer, the middle class slowly sinks towards the poverty line. To shield themselves from public scrutiny, the oligarchs use propaganda to spread Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. They deploy their most charismatic and beautiful individuals to tell you that if it weren’t for all those foreigners, you’d have a stable job.

Meanwhile, all manufacturing companies have been sold and moved overseas. Unskilled and uneducated labor is at an all-time low. Drug use is up, crime rates are soaring, and neighborhoods are falling into poverty. Is it time to protest, to start an uprising? But wait—straight from Fox News: all those immigrants who came over are criminals. It's gang violence. Other countries are exiling their criminals and sending them to us. Our poor, uneducated, unwashed masses are eager to believe this, allowing the right to swoop in, carrying these people back home. They believe that finally, they'll land that big job, get the big raise, the big truck, have nine kids, and live happily ever after.

You assume logic is behind their reasoning, that's where you went wrong