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[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

So, piracy is legal if you don't distribute? What the fuck is Zuck smoking?

[-] ulterno@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well, that's how it tends to be in most places.
You don't get caught for downloading; you get caught for uploading.

Using a similar logic to distribution via DVDs. Only the seller gets into trouble. The buyer does not.


Another point, opening a web page means downloading it, so if someone wanted to frame someone for downloading something, it would be very easy to make such a trap. This, accompanied with CSAM and network monitoring could be used to easily get any person using the internet, in jail, just for opening the wrong link. So, the laws require much more information regarding intent and such.

[-] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The buyers/downloaders don't get caught is just because there are too many of them and going after the distributor is an easy target.

[-] gon@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Not the case, necessarily.

In Portugal, for example, it's legal to download pirated content. It's not a matter of not pursuing it because it's hard or being difficult to catch or distributors are an easier target, it's just that, legally, you're not doing anything wrong.

[-] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

sooooo.... vpn should point to Portugal...

[-] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Oh for real? Learn something new today.

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

In Canada it’s legal to download and watch content for personal use, so it’s when it’s shared that it becomes an issue.

Just like you could record anything with a vcr, you just couldn’t share it with your friends.

[-] regrub@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

And the copyright owners have no problem with them profiting from derived works that were made using pirated content?

[-] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Another example of Republican principles. Corporations are protected by laws but not bound by them, while the average citizen is bound by laws but not protected by them.

[-] EmptySlime@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

In group and out group baybee!

[-] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

I want to know how to switch groups.

[-] dabaldeagul@feddit.nl 1 points 1 month ago

Too late, you should've been born with lots of money. Actually, you could marry someone who's rich I guess..

[-] kilgore_trout@feddit.it -1 points 1 month ago

What does this have to do with the Republican party? The other party upholds the same copyright law.

[-] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago

This is honestly a win-win. Either the courts recognize that the LLM uses stolen copyrighted content, or they recognize that torrenting is legal by default.

Though with the way courts have been bending case law into knots recently, I wouldn’t be surprised if they somehow word the ruling in a way that favors Meta and makes torrenting outright illegal.

[-] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Ahh, but you’re forgetting the Rules for Thee clause that protects any and all wealthy, white, corporate gremlins from facing the same or similar consequences that any of the poors might face for the same infraction.

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

So not just they pirated them, which may or may not be a crime and where I may or may not be impartial, but they are also leeches who would be banned on any decent torrent tracker of the olden days.

[-] Podunk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Truly despicable. Seeding to at least 1 to 1 is the bare minimum of courtesy and humanity. If you dont, its unethical

[-] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Seeding shouldn't be done on ratios - being the only one seeding 10 seasons of a tv show and getting it to 0.4:1 is way more helpful than seeding the same movie as everyone else and getting to 20:1, you're noy contributing anything there other than decreasing your bandwidth for things that aren't already at 100,000% availability

[-] Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Seeding to ratios is self correcting, in my inexperienced opinion as I only share ISOs.

Unpopular thing sits on someone's computer (not mine) for ages just happily waiting until it's useful. Popular thing is in and out. Purely for files intended to be churned; try a distro (in facebook's case a book), use it, and delete it.

1:3 could be said to be a minimum (1 for to pay back, 1 to pay forward, and 1 to pay for a leecher)

Things that are going to be archived can be set as limitless as long as strain on hardware can be tolerated.

[-] Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

I'd you are the only one seeding it and get to 0.4, you just left others hanging with incomplete downloads.

However I do agree in general

[-] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

That's what I'm saying

It's better to not even half-way seed a torrent with low availability than it is to seed one that everyone else is seeding, regardless of how high your ratio goes - it's a point on how pointless it really is to waste your resources seeding something like that

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

The lazy approach is the best approach IMO. Seed everything, and if the ratio gets high, drop it. That way you get rid of useless popular torrents and keep the less popular ones. If everyone does that, things will work better.

[-] molten@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Of course that fuck isn't a good seeder. Leech.

[-] singletona@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

So where's the MAFIAA? Here you go guys, literal industrial scale piracy.

Or are you afraid to go after someone that isn't a teenager in their parent's back room?

[-] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Fighting Meta will cost easy more money than fighting a teenager.

[-] singletona@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I am aware. I was simply demonstrating they were never about money, simply bullying people who couldn't fight back.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Especially since in the height of my pirating years during teenagerdom, no amount of cajoling or coercion could get me to pay for whatever it was because I didn't have any money. Which not at all coincidentally was why I was pirating it in the first place.

These dweebs always operate from the frankly invalid preconception that if the pirate had not pirated the media they would have paid for it and therefore they're "owed" a sale, but that's not how it works. I imagine that if the vast majority of people were unable to pirate their thing, they simply would not watch/listen/read/play/consume the thing at all.

[-] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

Also I love how they they don't say they didn't seed, just say there is no proof

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago

Facebook got FBI_README.txt at the root of their DC++ share.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 0 points 1 month ago

This is why I try to find legitimate sites offering direct downloads instead of illegally uploading during torrenting. There are many sites offering direct downloads, but I often have trouble finding them.

[-] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago
[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

I don't know where to begin.

[-] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

find a usenet provider (I use giganews), then find an indexer (nzbfinder.ws is public, but costs money), then install sabnzbd, then profit.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

What is the difference between indexer and provider?

[-] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Think of it like torrents. You need tj search a site to get the magnet link (indexer) Then you need to connect to the dht network (provider). Then you need a download client (sabnzbd+). It’s not exactly the same, because both the provider and the indexed usually charge money to access

[-] kingblaaak@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

You wouldn't download car....and then upload its stats to a centralised system

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