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The US under Trump cannot be misunderstood: They are a threat to Canadian sovereignty. (www.youtube.com)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca

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At the first Trump cabinet meeting, he stated his intentions clearly. He restated blatant lies and disinformation, and he won't really be questioned on it from the press or from any US politicians. The US is the enemy of Canada and should be understood as such. Take heed of his treatment of Ukraine - when he noted that they would lose the war without US help - and consider what he will propose when he uses the same argument on us. He makes it very clear in the video.

And very carefully consider which of our political leaders will stand up to Trump when he makes the argument that we need American military in our country to protect us.

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[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 79 points 3 months ago

The US is now a threat to the entire world.

[-] from_D4rkness@lemmy.world 39 points 3 months ago

Now? I think it has become a bigger threat for sure, but the US has been a straight up villain to the world before this.

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Not to every country in the world. Even Russia and North Korea would be well advised not to trust the US.

And not that egregiously as far as upcoming damages to the environment are concerned - which also affect the entire planet.

[-] from_D4rkness@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

Yea, we are in for a very bad ride. :(

[-] Nemean_lion@lemmy.ca 43 points 3 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

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[-] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 31 points 3 months ago

It's already started, It just isn't traditional war. It will be the same as how they took the states... through disinfo and pushing their stooges into power. (Pierre Polievere etc)

We are fighting a war against bullshit.

[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 months ago

Current polls suggest Poilievre is one of the first casualties of Trump's tariff threats. Which is hilarious.

[-] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 months ago

Yeah look up the Mar A Lago Accord: https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/investing/2025/02/25/what-a-mar-a-lago-accord-would-mean-for-the-us-dollar/

Trump wants to annex us in any way he can - economic annexation is easiest. These are serious discussions in the White House, and we need to take them seriously too.

And I can guaran-fucking-tee that Poilievre will drive straight into a US economic annexation, such as described at the link above. He will go along as the US drives us into deeper economic subjugation and dependence.

[-] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

We are Ukraine in 2013 right now.

[-] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 months ago

Yeah, my wife and I reached the same acceptance. We spent the last month or so thinking we were overthinking it all. Now we've realized that it may happen, and we're resolved to stay and do what we can. The kids will go overseas with their grandparents. Between all of them they speak three languages, they'll be fine. We accept that we're likely to be killed but we have to do it for our kids. It's a strange journey but now we can get on with regular life, knowing we have a plan. It took her a bit more time but we both got there eventually.

We're also resolved to protest and push back. I've never really gone to a protest but this is existential.

If there's someone in your life that is on the wrong side of this, and they are worth the effort, come to them carefully and listen. Don't just attack them, as they will dig in their heels. Instead, make sure to ask them why THEY think you disagree with them, and why THEY think you believe what you do. Take the time to talk to them. Don't get mired in policy. And think carefully about how you will answer the above questions when they turn it around on you.

If they are strangers and you don't want to spend the effort, then don't waste your time. Give them no benefit of the doubt, nor any assumption of good faith. They will surely not extend those to you. Ignore them. The sooner you realize they are unfortunately your enemy, the easier it will be.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago

Same

[-] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

That is a beautiful piece of hardware, with kickass livery!! Gives me a patriotic quarter chub.

I want my C7 decked out like this.

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[-] rabber@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm getting my PAL this month after never being interested in firearms before. And at least if the conservatives do win here, we'll probably be allowed to purchase automatic weapons again.

Actually 10 of us at work are doing the firearms course together and we are autistic sysadmins lol

[-] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago

Pick up some Canadian made body armour if you're in Quebec or Ontario. Practice practice practice.

And learn how to build and fly drones. There are some great DIY drone suppliers in Toronto area.

[-] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Also trauma Feild kits. They will be necessary. Many of them. Everyone planning guns or drones should have one. I am happy to offer my skills and whatever equipment I can round up...but I will need a lot.

[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago

And the training to use them.

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[-] rabber@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm an extremely experienced drone pilot. It sounds funny but flying a drone for me came so easy because I set the controls to the same controls used in the attack helicopter in bad company 2. Which I have hundreds of hours of helicopter in that. So it was just plug and play for me lol

I'm in BC if you have any recommendations for body armour here

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[-] arotrios@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago

So step up the game already, Canada. Become a threat to US Sovereignty. Make a real offer for the blue states to join and be willing to protect them with military force when Trump retaliates. Enact an American refugee program to bring the best and the brightest across your borders. Get Newsom, Whitmer, Pritzker and Walz to the table and start making real deals.

Because as a Californian, I'd rather be a Canadian on the side of democracy and justice than an American on the side of fascism.

[-] Devanismyname@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago

You'd need part of your military to turn on him which likely won't happen. Our military isn't even remotely capable of standing up to yours.

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Problem is, CA and TX are both littered with bases and a shitload of stuff that goes boom, similar with other red and blue states. Seceding means war between states that have the economy and war fighting capability to beat whole countries on their own, so our only hope would be officers following their oath to enemies foreign AND domestic

[-] grey_maniac@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago

That's probably some of our best bet. The more they fight themselves, the less they'll be able to fight us.

[-] rabber@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago

We don't really have a military.

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago

There is only one cou try in the world who would have a chance of standing up to America in conventional warfare, and it definitely isn't Canada. I don't think #2 would win either, but they have a chance.

[-] grey_maniac@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago

We're definitely looking at insurgent warfare. Asymmetric as possible.

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[-] rabber@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago

You underestimate Canadian geographic advantage I think. I would love to see America try to occupy the rockies in the winter and I hope they wear bodycams when that happens so we can laugh after the fact

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

You can't hide an army in the rockies. You couldn't even really hide them in the Shield. But if there's an invasion I expect there will be a holding withdrawal and then a lot of guerilla groups with well-trained leaders will suddenly appear.

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[-] WorkshopBubby@lemmy.ca 27 points 3 months ago

There are still dipshits saying "it's just hot air" gaslighting me on a daily basis. But yes we are the next Ukraine right now, it's a mirror image. But instead of Russia's dog shit economy, horde of orcs, and soviet weapons, it's the United Fucking States. We are completely fucked if we don't become pro active. In my opinion an American civil war is the only hope for our survival. And we should be intervening. A large group of armed Canadians should be going into the US when their civil war starts and backing up the real Americans and helping them fight against the fascist traitors. If we just sit here with our thumbs up our asses then Trump has a chance to solidify his power, and then we have no choice but to get fucked.

[-] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago

Just look at one of the commenters on this very post. I truly hope he's an American, for his sake, because if he's a Canadian yearning for hostilities I can guarantee he and his ilk will be the first up against the wall. Metaphorically... of course.

[-] WorkshopBubby@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago

There are quite a few pro annexation Canadian traitors and fascists. And we ought to do something about them. I know of a few prominent ones in my own city. I am wondering when the right time is to take action.

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[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

Heck they're a threat to US sovereignty

[-] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 months ago

Trump can piss right the F off! They could not win a war against us.

All our measurements are in metric they would just be lost.
We will cut off their power and the average US citizen will get mad because we give them so much electricity, at least the northern states.
We will cut off the oil tap and their military vehicles will not be able to run. At least until they reformat their refiners for their oil, leading to more power outs.
Their economy will just crash because of power outages. Leading to the people who would retrofit the refiners demanding for more money, that the oil companies do not have on hand.
The people will rise up in the US because of the massive and very fast inflation, Trump will be remembered as the president who destroyed the US in a mater of a few months of taking office.

I do not want to say go a head and try but the US loses either way, I also understand that there are military people way smarter than me who have battle plans drawn up. I did not know that these plans are kept up to date as well.

[-] WorkshopBubby@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 months ago

People will rise up, that is true. But if Trump solidifies his power, and it wont take much longer, he can easily work around all of the other leverage we have. He is more than happy to trade with Russia, NK, India, Iran, etc. to displace anything Canadians import. They will have plenty of fuel for their vehicles.

[-] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Take away potash as that kills corn farmers. Corn is the base of a lot of industrial plants owned by the ruling class.

And also medical isotopes. Those old politicians will find it difficult to see their doctors without scans and X-rays. Shame how many heart attacks and strokes there will be.

[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 16 points 3 months ago

Bad news. Trump is buying Potash from Belarus and energy from Russia. Canada is moving away from the US but the US is moving away from Canada.

Trump is busy assembling the new Axis of Evil.

[-] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I am aware but if we act now we can affect this growing season regardless. That may be all it takes to piss off the citizens enough...if that is even possible.

[-] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

Potash does so much more then fertilize Corn, it fertilizes everything! If the farmers cannot fertilize their feilds the food products will suffer, more so than it did this year with Trumps big imminent round up. I read somewhere that it takes one year of not fertilizing a feild properly to mess it up, for something like 5 years I could be totally wrong on that memory but I do know not fertilizing properly really screws things up. Farmers that also raise cattle maybe able to make it more than two years but they will be suffering fast.

That is a long term war plan, what I laid out would happen within weeks, if not days.

[-] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 months ago

It will affect everything but trump is already importing potash from Belarus so he will just get it elsewhere. The big deal is corn because of the uses for the product. It's in literally everything in some form. Next to soy it's the largest crop by far. It fucks the entire system including animal feed. I grow veggies on a small scale ((1/4 acre) I assure you corn will take a hit before they can replace potash but we need to act fast.

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[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago

We're a threat to the entire planet currently and even a good portion of us are begging for the madness to end. Invade us, seriously, someone put an end to it.