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[-] kixik@lemmy.ml 30 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Librewolf is a privacy oriented fork of Firefox, it grabs some setting from arkenfox. Betterbird is not a privacy oriented fork of Thunderbird as far as I remember. When I tried it the only thing I was attracted to was its tray support, but as I use non DE compositors, so far wayfire, labwc and sway (tabbed layout), and as there's currently a Firefox bug, I didn't see any reason to keep trying it, and now on sway with tabbed layout I see no reason for a tray any ways...

kixik

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago
[-] kixik@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago
[-] A_norny_mousse@lemm.ee 19 points 4 months ago

Interesting.

Did you read their website/faq? It very clearly tells me that Betterbird has a very different focus than LibreWolf. It's not about Privacy, it's about fixing bugs.

[-] Oxidize@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 months ago

What you're looking for is Dove:

Dove is a suite of configurations & advanced modifications for Mozilla Thunderbird, designed to put the user first - with a focus on privacy, security, freedom, & usability.

https://codeberg.org/celenity/Dove

[-] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

Thank you very much! Will definitely take a look. 🙂

[-] despotic_machine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 months ago

BetterBird is great. I got it running via Birdtray under Cinnamon with some minor tinkering in the birdtray-config.json file.

[-] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

How did you get it working? I am using the latest Mint with Cinnamon, Betterbird flatpak with Birdtray flatpak. I setup the directory for my two email inboxes and it displays the joint counter on BT icon. However whenever I open BT it opens BB and gives an error and keeps BB open over anything else.

[-] despotic_machine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago

birdtray-config.json

Edit the following strings:

"advanced/tbcmdline": [
        "/usr/bin/flatpak-spawn",
        "--host",
        "flatpak",
        "run",
        "--branch=stable",
        "--arch=x86_64",
        "--command=betterbird",
        "--file-forwarding",
        "eu.betterbird.Betterbird",
        "@@u",
        "%u",
        "@@"
    ],
    "advanced/tbprocessname": "betterbird",
    "advanced/tbwindowmatch": "Betterbird",

In Birdtray under Advanced - Thunderbird command line - call Betterbird as follows:

/usr/bin/flatpak-spawn --host flatpak run --branch=stable --arch=x86_64 --command=betterbird --file-forwarding eu.betterbird.Betterbird @@u %u @@

[-] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 2 points 4 months ago

Thank you, I'll give it a try

[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 months ago

Hopefully we can get a Betterbird mobile app one day.

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 months ago

Try FairEmail. It's the closest thing I've found.

https://f-droid.org/packages/eu.faircode.email/

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

I was looking into k-9 mail and it seemed decent

What stuff did you want to have in a mobile app?

[-] something_random_tho@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

K-9 mail is literally Thunderbird. It’s been rebranded and taken over by Mozilla. They’re keeping the k-9 branding as its own (otherwise identical) app as a nostalgia token for the people that have used it for a long time.

[-] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml -3 points 4 months ago

Will it work with K-9/Thunderbird for Android?

[-] zecg@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

What do you mean "work with", it's a different-ass client? Do you mean if it's possible to import settings?

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

The email servers themselves are separate (ex. Gmail, your school email server, work email server, etc.).

Thunderbird / K9 are clients that let you access the email on your device

So they should all be compatible with each other

[-] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

Ok, duh, you're both right of course; late night/early morning brain fart here 🧠💨

[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

No. Betterbird adds random features.

[-] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 3 points 4 months ago

Are there the same problems with Thunderbird as with Firefox?

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

There are no "problems" with Firefox. The problems are with Mozilla and how they operate Firefox, so they could easily start affecting Thunderbird too.

[-] aspensmonster@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 4 months ago

The Thunderbird team spent a good chunk of time a few days ago replying everywhere they were mentioned on Mastodon, insisting that the problems did not apply to them:

The Firefox Terms of Use do not apply to Thunderbird or any other products we develop (e.g. Appointment, K-9 Mail)

You can check out their replies here: https://mastodon.online/@thunderbird/with_replies. Lots of the same, or similar, verbiage across replies.

[-] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I tried to use LibreWolf yesterday. The Flatpak version wasn't supported by KeePassXC, so that was a pass for me. The Fedora version did work with it, but it was also freezing my system and causing graphical glitches that were so terrible, I thought my hardware died. There were coloured blocks as well as weird pixelated warping. It's probably because I have Wayland, and I noticed that the Fedora version ran under X. I would have submitted a bug report, but I didn't even know where to start. Maybe I'll do that eventually.

E: I have narrowed this down with journalctl to be an issue with amdgpu. This happenes on Firefox as well, but not other applications somehow. It's something to do with a gfxhub page fault. I'll have to see whether an older kernel version might help.

[-] asap@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Strange - I'm on Fedora Wayland using the flatpak version without any issues.

[-] CedarA64@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

No issues with the flatpak version on OpenSUSE Leap with KDE Wayland either.

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