USA’s presidents have all been awful humans : memes

[-] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 0 points 4 days ago

Just a little reminder that governments have killed more people than any other entity and it isn't even close. You could try to point at religion - and that history is also fucked - but even if you exclude "holy wars" waged by religious government leaders, religious killing still doesn't add up to what has been done by governments where religion wasn't really a factor. The proletariat must not be disarmed. You might trust your current government, but give it a generation (or even an election) and things could be very different.

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[-] McCrankyface@midwest.social 0 points 4 days ago

Jimmy Carter

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[+] TommySoda@lemmy.world -9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

You could look at any country in the world and find leaders that were just as bad and even worse throughout history. I think the takeaway should be that shitty people exist. Some of it is a product of the times, some of it just being awful people. Shitty people have and always will exist.

Edit: With these downvotes it almost seems like y'all thought I was defending them. I absolutely was not defending them. :)

[-] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee -3 points 5 days ago

This is an ml community. Anything that praises the USA or normalizes it (that is, reducing the awfulness) is gonna get down votes.

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[+] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world -26 points 5 days ago

Okay, fella - take a few breaths and relax. People are products of their times. The better ones fight for virtues and values they see as better at the time. They see an opportunity others do not and rally people around those.

Others they don't see and continue wi5h those norms, or they see the wrongs but don't believe they can rally people around fixing them.

Do not demonize people in the past who do not meet current norms. There will never be anybody who will meet those standards.

Judge them against the standards of their peers.

What if MLK did not support feminists? Would he now be considered scum, thus negating everything good he ever did?

Heck, i don't know if he had a stance on women's rights explicitly. Maybe he didn't. Is he evil if he didn't?

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[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world -3 points 5 days ago

That's four of them. I rather think Carter was a good human being, regardless of whether or not you think he was a good president.

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